[00:00:00] Welcome to The Wing Life Podcast, where we talk about wing-foiling and the lifestyles of those who enjoy this great sport. Hey, dear to meet you both at AWS I. It was cool. AWS I is really cool. On a go back.
[00:00:20] Yeah, how did that show go for you both? They're really cool to be there. I'm from Rio, from Brazil. And we don't have this kind of events here.
[00:00:29] So for me, it's like all new and is really nice to sell the brand, a lot of athletes, like a lot of friends. And they're really like, ladies going there every year or so. Yeah, I usually, I've been going to the hood river since I was 12 years old.
[00:00:45] So, but the AWS I is new for me, which is cool. It's just cool to, I don't know, foiling as such like a small world. So, you kind of know everybody.
[00:00:55] So it's fun that all your friends just go to one spot and you can go hang out and meet new people. So I feel like that's why I go to AWS I. Nice. Yeah, this year, The Wing was not that good. It was kind of weird.
[00:01:10] But anyway, everyone's there. All the brands are good like to meet people and to talk about next year, understand more the gear, try new gear. I think that the website is kind of good for all the people around the hiding, winning and foil world.
[00:01:28] Because I feel like it's the only place that people find about changing gear and testing everything. So things really cool.
[00:01:37] Yeah, it was my first season going down and it was cool to meet some legends and then see a lot of the athletes and meet some of the athletes and stuff and everybody else is involved. It was pretty cool. There's a fun event.
[00:01:48] We've got a little bit of water time but she guys home for a little bit then. Yeah. For a couple months. A couple months. You live full-time in Brazil?
[00:01:57] Um, not really like it's my first time spending maybe more than trim out scene in Brazil since a long time. But with my, and three months here, I got injured and I heard myself like really bad. You're my the gasker. Like my leg.
[00:02:16] And we still are still like trying to understand what happened. Like doctors and all those things. Okay, sorry here. Black it's okay. So you guys are home for medical visits and stuff then for a little bit. Do you want to talk about what happened or leave that officer?
[00:02:32] Yeah, we get. Yeah. So what was the trip for Madagascar? Um, for is it a, is it a sponsored trip or was it a trip that you guys want to do in your own or? Um, no.
[00:02:43] I have a few trips where I've won every year and we try to choose like, places that's not that common for kites or first or wing filers or like, yeah, most of kiting, winging. And this year with the side to go to Madagascar, everything was new for us.
[00:03:01] And then was one of the nice and like most beautiful places I've been in my whole life. And we were far from everything. So when I heard my leg there was kind of like, okay, maybe have to go back home and see what happened.
[00:03:17] Because we were like, I don't know, almost 20 hours from the closest hospital or something like that. Oh wow. Yeah. And how was transportation there to get back to like, you flew direct to the,
[00:03:34] you got to the airport and you kind of came home right away or not really like, It was a long trip. I thought it was fine. Like I knew something happened but I thought it was like okay. So we stayed like two days longer and two days more,
[00:03:52] but I didn't hide or wing or serve for anything. They know surfing every day. He was there for the only. So at then it was really good for him. Because it was a lot to serve.
[00:04:06] But I waited like two days and then I flew to California thinking everything would be fine. But was still like super painful. So I decided to come to Brazil to see my doctor. And then I flew here. It was like a long journey.
[00:04:22] It was like five days traveling to get here. And now I was trying to understand if I need surgery or not, but probably not. So it was like a month ago now. And I'm walking like doing almost everything. I cannot go into water.
[00:04:37] Still like not tied or anything. But I feel like way better. I feel like I'm almost ready. But my doctor is not thinking the same. So I have to wait. Okay, okay. Well, I'm glad you're on the mend.
[00:04:52] And I'm assuming that was probably kite surfing down like a 60 foot face. I'm assuming what happened. No really. This is the craziest part because I feel like all the time when it's big. Maybe I'm way more conscious and like paying much more attention in what I'm doing.
[00:05:08] It was like a small day light wind. But my kite was like one side and the wave pushed me to the other side. And my leg kind of went up with the board. It was a very small thing that at the end was not that small.
[00:05:26] But those days that you think like everything going to be fine, worst thing that can happen is like your kite going to water because the wind is too light. So yeah, it wasn't like sparkling. But it's part of the game.
[00:05:40] And surfing was good for you, day and then it was fine. Yeah, yeah, we got we got some good filming the first couple days. And then yeah, kind of went light and small and then she heard herself.
[00:05:53] I got to surf a little bit but yeah, trip was absolutely amazing. The place is so beautiful people are so nice. And it's like a place we were. We had no like electricity, no water, no anything. We were like shouring with the little bucket.
[00:06:11] It was like we needed the middle of nowhere. And at the beginning we were a little worried about how would charge the cameras and batteries and like what do we do a movie? Because when they're to do like a movie. So we were like, okay, it's really nice.
[00:06:25] But we kind of came being going to be hard. They're not ready for this like situation. But at the end like with everything perfect, the honor of the camp was so nice and helping with everything. And people there so open. It was amazing. It was really amazing.
[00:06:43] Oh, it's nice to hear. Yeah, it's so summer you're like mutual stuff on Instagram and whatnot. Look pretty cool. Yeah, we were like going around on the little canoe. Like first day we got there and they're like, okay, maybe we can have like a boat waiting for us.
[00:07:00] And then the guy was like, oh, that's my boat. And we saw it was like a tiny canoe. And I looked at how far we go to hours. Okay, to get to the hotel. Oh, no way.
[00:07:15] So obviously man powered car, like a little motor on there or no? I need a motor. Yeah, a little motor. Okay. Yeah, you never know what kind of adventures you're going to get into right when you go to different places. And this is the good part.
[00:07:29] I feel like because of the kinding and competition, like I go a lot to the same places every year. Like I kind of keep going to the same places and depending on the time of the year. Because of the season.
[00:07:42] And for me going to new places is always like the best part. I wish I could go just to new places all the time. How were the conditions in Madagascar? It was super good.
[00:07:59] It's definitely a challenging place for to find all the right waves and conditions at wind. And like it's we planned it like a while ago. So it was kind of like you show up and you hope that. I don't know that you have wind in ways. Yeah.
[00:08:21] And the forecast looked absolutely insane the first day, but it was I don't know 20, 20 foot. It was showing like 20 to 25 and like super windy. You know, it's going to be perfect. Like it's a dream. It's going to be huge. I wasn't really happy.
[00:08:37] But I think there are some definitely some spots that were like workable. But like with no hospital, like there's just a canoe to go get you if anything happens. It's a reef and then you're sitting like way inside on a beach.
[00:08:51] And so it's like, yeah, it might be cool to go. But like the risk is like so not worth it. So and also the guys like from there, they were not very open about us going in a ways. I feel like I would be happy.
[00:09:06] Maybe I would not be okay going in a ways because I always like to see when it's a big and like this I'd be going to go or not. But I was really happy about like maybe going like going there, checking in like this I need
[00:09:19] going to go or not. But the guys like I feel like they didn't even like give us the chance to look because They were too worried about something happened.
[00:09:27] So the first day he was like no chance we can not leave the bay like the boats are too small. And I mean I agree. I think it's true. Yeah.
[00:09:36] I think it's true like the good not leave the bay like the bay was all like big waves and impossible with the little canoe. But then we heard about different waves that we could go by car in front of a hotel like another tiny hotel.
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[00:11:22] It's true, like maybe it was over. But I feel like people there, they're worried about tourists about us because if you feel like you've something happened. Like the tourism that's already not being going to like finish completely.
[00:11:34] So they kind of like to protect us and the place a lot. A lot a lot a lot. Okay, and how big was the team that went down with you? Was it just a two of you or? That's, yeah. But I think they're doing this good or faster.
[00:11:50] If you're not like a lot of people with more faster. That's true. That's true. You can dart around and hone down on forecasts and easy to change plans. I guess here was so fast. Everything was like all conditions are going. Like you just go, go, go.
[00:12:04] You know, like, kind of go up and like kite and then I think the our best way we had like 45 minutes I think of kite in. So it was like it was definitely like the whole experience was unreal and like wouldn't change anything.
[00:12:18] But like if you just take the like kite in serving part is definitely pretty challenging. But like the actual trip was absolutely unreal. So. Oh nice. Nice. I fixed. Yeah. Well, yeah. And in your both home safe. So. Yeah. Which is nice.
[00:12:37] Well, hey, for folks at home who are who are have followed you on Instagram and who would love have both of your work. It'd be cool to get to know both of you a little bit more. So who wants to go first and tell us more about themselves?
[00:12:50] Yeah, I can go first. Yeah, so I'm Dane. I grew up. I grew up sailing. And I started when I was like five years old and that was pretty much my entire life was was sailing and that's all I wanted to do.
[00:13:08] And I've basically did that until like two years ago. I did a couple like youth world championships, which is like under 18 and then I did two Olympic campaigns. And. And then like the whole foiling had a slowly just took over my life.
[00:13:29] And like I, I between the sailing and the foiling I did the formula kite racing for like three years. Oh, and that's where I got into foiling actually.
[00:13:41] And then from there I went into surf foiling and then slowly got a wing and then downwind and like I was like now it's all I do. I'm like now it's all I do. I'm like I'd sailed.
[00:13:53] Yeah, I sailed the ones and the last like now he gave all this everything all day. Oh yeah, like the rest of us. And then like when I stopped sailing I also like I've been doing photography and video stuff like as a hobby for a long time.
[00:14:07] And then. I stopped sailing and I was like what am I going to do? And so I started the film and photography stuff and it's been a little slow and like it has his ups and downs and some months are absolutely sick.
[00:14:18] And some months you're like ah, what am I doing? But yeah it's it's been awesome and that's this we wish all I do now. So oh, awesome. It had travel and felt like still super connected to the ocean and obviously wind and all that stuff.
[00:14:33] So it's all that it's all like the same premise I guess just just a little different and I'm happy to be. Anyway, if I'm like the competition side is like so stressful and consume so much of your life. And now it's like you enjoy.
[00:14:49] You do what makes you happy and feels good. So and I'm glad I got money. Oh yeah and so that's salty brothers. Yeah yeah yeah. Beautiful. How'd you pick the name? Were brothers and were you solve it? And we do that.
[00:15:07] Yeah we're in the ocean all the time. So I don't know if it would have worked if we were in the lake or anywhere. You know, never every dot. And that was out of the savory. Oh nice man. Well hey thanks for sharing that with us. Yeah.
[00:15:20] Oh, you're a termist. I'm like my family, my whole family come from winter. So it was not really enough for me. When I saw I was there.
[00:15:33] So I grow up watching my parents like winter thing in my grandfather and my aunt and my aunt call like my really my health. I was like, oh, I'm really a winter thing.
[00:15:42] And I remember home my whole life I was like wanting to learn but I was too young at the time and in reo is not that often like to have a strong wind because winter things are like kinding me the stronger wind.
[00:15:56] So it's not that often and I feel like my parents were young and of course they want me to learn but it was more like my father putting me in his boards and like writing around and like bringing me back but thinking I was like too young to learn.
[00:16:09] And then when it was finally time to learn I was maybe 9 or 10. They moved to Kiting. So but at the time, Kiting was just too lines.
[00:16:19] So again was the day there was in too crazy for like a little girl 10 years old to learn and I had to wait again. So I was just watching and like kind of learning from the beach. And when I was 13, I had my first experience with Kiting.
[00:16:36] It was really different at the time. I was like, I don't know long to go on 32 now so it's long time ago. And then I was like completely in love since the first time and when I was 15, 14, 15, I was competing like Brazilian competition and small competitions.
[00:16:55] Also wakeboarding, it was kind of mixing both. But I never thought it would be my life. Like I was starting theater and fashion at the time. Like I was starting theater at the time and I wanted to be an actress.
[00:17:08] Like I was really not wanting to be an athlete. It was really not like I was. I love Kiting but it's not my life. It's what I thought at the time. And I really tried to go to the theater side and I was doing this a lot too.
[00:17:22] I was like maybe 20 and I was traveling a lot for Kiting and I was doing TV shows in Brazil all about Kiting and since I was 16, 17. But again, not really thinking about like always going to be my life. Not at all. Like this is for now.
[00:17:38] I'm going to be an actress and everything going to be fine. But then at one point they invited me to the different TV show like traveling a lot. And then I was like okay maybe it should be enough. Maybe this is what I am.
[00:17:54] And then I went completely to the like traveling and kind surfing and surfing world. And like completely focused on this when I was around like 20. And but again, not thinking about compete like GK or anything like this because I like competition but it's not really my thing.
[00:18:16] If you like much more competitive with myself and with other people. Like it's not something that motivates me a lot. Like I like to be there sometimes like if it's a good way of a good conditions.
[00:18:27] I'll be happy to be there and ride like really happy because I'll have this spot just for me It's like one or two girls but not really sure. Or a place is not really me of course. Win is really good and I cannot.
[00:18:40] I'm not going to lie like it's really good to win. And it's an amazing feeling. But for me is not worth it to like not leave everything I'm leaving and not travel and produce content and like meet people and learn about new cultures.
[00:18:56] Like for me this is more important than a competition. And it's about ride wrong but yeah kind of like this. So I was traveling a lot in filming like TV shows and learning about like. A lot of things in the world, it was really happy doing this.
[00:19:14] And then at one point they gave me the wild card to compete. This route was freestyle and Brazil. And I was just on a kite wave. I didn't know anything about strapless freestyle. And I was like but I don't know what I don't know anything about this.
[00:19:27] And they were like yeah but you were the Brazilian champion. And like we need the girl going please just go and I was like okay. And then I fuck was like completely on days. I was training like a lot a lot a lot a lot.
[00:19:37] Like for a month and a half something like this. And I went to competition and they had like a good result for the time I was training. I finished fourth and it's pretty good. Yeah, it was good. And then I was like oh this is fun.
[00:19:54] Like I kind of like it. And then I was like starting strapless freestyle like doing this sometimes and like kite wave and next year I compete again I finished third. And I was like oh I kind of like this is nice.
[00:20:08] And then I decided to compete like the whole tour and I was riding a different brand at the time. And because I was competing the whole tour and like traveling a sign with F1. And it was a little bit more of pandemic.
[00:20:22] So pandemic started and was very beginning of like my time really like into competition thing. I was a professional kite surfer but much more like producing content about kite wave and like dowings and things. Like this. But when I signed with F1,
[00:20:40] the only thing that you asked me for was like okay but we want to start winging. I was like that's easy. Like I'm happy about this. We can do that. And then I was in four to go.
[00:20:53] I was a rimp on that make so I tried a lot. But I had no idea what I was doing because it was like 2019 I think was the very beginning. I really worked. No classes, everything was closed and I was like really happy.
[00:21:05] I was like really far and Portugal. And in the place we've not much people so I was able to go to the beach and go to the Lagoon. But I didn't know even how to like grab my wing. It was like okay, how should I do this?
[00:21:18] And of course it was a disaster. And a couple months after pandemic they wrote me saying like so we're going to do a shooting like a wing shooting. And you're part of the shooting. It was like a really.
[00:21:32] No maybe I have to learn and they were like yeah you have like two weeks go learn this. And then I went to Thera and here in Brazil in a few few days in a learn and I did the shooting and I was completely in love.
[00:21:48] I was like this is my thing. And I compete for one year, the wing tour and it was really nice. How did that happen? It was good day. I finished up five. I was really happy. There was an expecting. It was really happy. Yes.
[00:22:05] And I feel like it was really nice but competing, and fighting and winging was too much. So I decided to like keep on wing but not competing and focus more on fighting. But the Rimpon that I make was then so it was complicated to travel and everything.
[00:22:24] And it was kind of like not full into it. That was fun. It was good. And now like this year I decided to like follow what I really like and what I believe. And I didn't compete again and I'm completely focused and producing content,
[00:22:42] breath one and for my other sponsors. And this is what I really like. I feel like I can go this forever. And now that I'm not fighting much I feel like it's crazy because I was thinking about this. Yesterday how much I love my talk?
[00:22:56] Because I feel like how much people, how many people I can have this feeling about like not being able to work and be crazy about like wanting to go back to work. Because every day I feel like I really want to kite or really want to wing you.
[00:23:11] I want to be in the water. And at the same time this is my work. And I feel like how lucky I am thinking like every day that I really want to go back to my work. And yeah. So it's something.
[00:23:25] It's something that I think very few people get to feel. And I think it's so important that people who are at the forefront of this, like the both of you producing this awesome content and putting it out into the world
[00:23:40] and showing people because there's a whole other aspect that I'd love to go into and find it more but your boss and how you both got more into your lifestyle of that sorts.
[00:23:48] But I think it's critical at a time like this where people, especially with COVID and pandemic they're getting more and more isolated. Jobs are getting more and more more isolating and then you're getting, it's almost it's a feeling because you have that feeling of excitement
[00:24:02] and it's like you're on the other side of this artificial veil. And you're like, I never want to go back to that side again because it's such a freeing experience and such a loving thing.
[00:24:14] I think being able to share those stories like how you are is pretty cool because it'll help other people find that because it's a calling of sorts, I think. And I feel like everything I had during my life
[00:24:28] I was completely against what people were telling me to do. Like I was to any wanting to study theater and kinding. So it's two kind of jobs that people don't take much serious like you should do something like a real job.
[00:24:45] But I was like this is a real job, this is what I want to do and I love this and I don't get about what you think. I love to you and I love citing and that's it.
[00:24:53] So all the time in my life I feel like before telling, trying to tell me that I should try to do something different and especially when I decided that I would be like, okay I want to be a professional kind of surfer but not competing.
[00:25:07] I remember people laughing at me like, okay it's already hard to be a kind surfer competing. Now you want to be a professional kind surfer not competing. And I was like yeah, no one will make it happen and people really like not believing in me.
[00:25:20] Like a lot of people. And it's really nice like now leaving like be able to leave from this and like I follow my dreams and it's working. Like I love what I'm doing and I'm leaving from this. It's kind of like good.
[00:25:39] I think that depends on kind of how we so terrac you want to get but like there are some theories of enlightenment that state that enlightenment is following your purpose and passion and living through joy in that sense and be able to connect those dots
[00:25:54] and then showing that to other people. So that's kind of, that's pretty cool. So it's tip my hat to your vote. That is cool. Dane for your competitive side. Did you feel the same way about sailing? Because I know that can be extremely
[00:26:12] detraining and everything involved for both your sports. Like would be extremely time-consuming. Did you feel that when you're able to kind of connect more into your hobby and turn that into a pro? Career them. I think the yeah, the composition side
[00:26:27] I think is it's definitely like an interesting balance. I kind of go in back to what we were just talking about. Like my family had a motto that was like artwork play
[00:26:37] every day so you do a little bit art, a little bit of work, a little bit of play. And I think the competition side of stuff is just like I loved it. I love sailing. I love the process of like you start here.
[00:26:53] You work a ton and then you end up here. And you like that movement, that felt good. And then you do an event and you get a place. And you're like, oh, okay that was sick. Now I'm going to improve this, this, and this,
[00:27:05] and then I'm going to get a better place. And in theory you just keep getting better and better and better. And like I really enjoy that process. I love competing. Like when you put everything together and it works as such a rewarding feeling. But,
[00:27:23] like Olympic sailing is such a hard sport to like make a living from. Like there's not much media around it. There's not much media at events. Like it's really like self-funding it, which are like you ask for donations or like it's kind of like this weird.
[00:27:48] Like I don't know. I hate to say everything. It's kind of like a lead of sport. And I'm like actually sailing. I love but like kind of everything else around it was kind of not really feeling like fully fulfilled.
[00:28:03] And I like put, I took so long to get through college. Like I think like center eight years or something like that because I did like a couple of years and I stopped. I would sailing and then I came back and stopped.
[00:28:15] And I was like, like when we met, I still had a big couple of like quarters left to go. I was like, yeah, I need to finish this and just get it done. But like meet, yeah, now like it's fun. Like I go to her competition sometimes.
[00:28:32] And like it's really enjoyable to be around competition. Like a lot of my friends are still doing it. And it's enjoyed me around it. But I feel like the just like enjoyment and fulfillment of life. Like I feel way better from a day-to-day thing.
[00:28:47] Now with like I enjoy what she was saying. I enjoy my work. I enjoy like if I if I dull or I get like over it and birds out or something like that and I stop like it's not too like very long at all before I'm like,
[00:28:59] oh like I need to go like create something or go do something. So I don't know if I has this question but Yeah, it kind of like in kind of curiosity how you both might.
[00:29:12] But in that sense, it kind of brought you both together to kind of do this next chapter together which is pretty cool because you're both bringing in different skills. And then to have that in the team is pretty awesome. Yeah, we met because of this actually like,
[00:29:26] yeah, yeah. It was not a really a job when we've partly to batagoniazeng China. And it's a really beautiful place in Batagonia. And we were there to show what was happening in Ireland about trash and all this.
[00:29:41] And we were there for like, for winging and show the place and do like a movie about this. And we met there beginning of last year. And at the time we're not like really sure about what would happen because
[00:29:53] that wasn't Brazil, we wasn't going to get it far near and it was traveling a lot. It was finishing like color like the college. I always mixed the names because like, anyway, he was finishing college in California and I was like,
[00:30:09] how we're going to happen but let's try. So we're kind of like sharing like going there and he was coming here and he was going there again. Like he came like three times last year. And I was there like three times last year.
[00:30:22] We're kind of like trying to make it happen. But then since the very beginning we're working together, but not really like calling it work but was work because you was helping with my pictures first fall and so on.
[00:30:38] And then like I was filming him like when he was surfiling and like we're doing things like this but not really thinking about like a job or a work like we're doing for fun. And then I realized it like, okay we're good working together because
[00:30:53] we're not even thinking about working and we're producing a lot of cool things. So I started to talk about him to my sponsors and like, hey, I should do this with Dan because I was always traveling a lot of people. It was like this is easy.
[00:31:04] It's cheaper for you guys because I'm here all the time. Like if we travel of course, you're going to pay everything for photographer like if I mean, kind of find it like you just pay him. And at the beginning was like a test.
[00:31:17] And for the beginning was really a test because people are like, okay, and this goes trying to sell her boyfriend. This is a gift. Let me think. And look at that face though. That's like a model. I think you're at the every heart cell.
[00:31:30] I like buying this thing. Yeah, that's a big deal. So I remember like first time we were a little worried. Like we have to do a good job because it's our first work together. And then I remember the brand completely love it.
[00:31:47] And then the second brand again, like the same. And then the brand started to pay us to travel together and produce in different countries like different cities and travel with the bus and the things like this.
[00:31:57] And was faster than we thought we're like, okay, we started this slowly and then we see what happened. And like a couple months later, we're like traveling a lot together and working together. And it's good. Yeah. Sometimes we feel like we have to separate work and life
[00:32:14] because we're both like kind of workaholic a little bit. And I really love my work. But it's being good. Oh, that's awesome. It's cool to be able to find that kind of how it all kind of slotted in together. That's pretty neat. Yes. Nice.
[00:32:32] So can we for let's for you, Marcella, there's a lot of like female athletes are there's a lot of women that we're trying to get more and more into sport. But it's always nice to hear from female athletes that that journey
[00:32:47] is possible and that there's more women that should pursue sport in this sense. I've a few cutter friends and whatnot and they just they find it it's hard sometimes in that sport. I feel like all this sport is really hard but especially
[00:33:03] citing for a lot of brands thinking about sponsors. The sport is expensive sports. So if you think about surfing your football or like basketball or all this, like most of people I able to buy ball or to buy a youth surfboard second hand surfboard.
[00:33:20] So you talk too much more people. So whatever you do, I'm not saying it's easy to find a sponsor but it's probably easier to show what you do and if you're good. You're going to have much more people watching like a football game or
[00:33:32] basketball game than watching like a kind surfing competition because citing is way newer and citing unfortunately is not to everyone yet. I hope in the future about being like completely honest, not yet. So I feel like we have to stop to try to be like to follow
[00:33:53] like the same process or like be the same model or like try to be exactly as the same one you think is doing good. And in fact, you're all the way to do everything because I feel like it's much more about personality and lifestyle and also
[00:34:11] competition is important but much more about like what you teaching like who you're spitting like what you're doing what are you showing then just going front of a camera and competition and saying oh my result was this is this is this I hope I do better next competition.
[00:34:27] Thank you by like this is not going to work like this is not working since a long time so it's not going to start working now. So I feel like a lot of people want to like leave from citing
[00:34:39] but they're still doing the same thing for many years and I feel like I had so many nose in my life and like so many it's like a thousand nose for one yes and we have to not be
[00:34:53] scared of the know and not be scared about like showing yourself and like being honest and showing what we trust and being part of the projects that we trust also because competition is nice but even the biggest competition still is
[00:35:11] small so how are we going to be being part of a competition that's too small like we need to do something else like just competition not going to work and this is what I believe like competition is nice and it's getting weaker but it's not enough yet
[00:35:29] so you found a way to kind of break through content and through videos that are being all them being paid for by your sponsors or some of them are being paid for by other companies or the content you're
[00:35:42] producing. I was doing a lot of TV shows in Brazil and I think it helped a lot because big TV I was able to show to brands to a lot of people and every year I'm still filming like
[00:35:58] TV shows and of course it's a different number like competition to social media and I feel like I was really lucky to be able to do this but now we have so many things like YouTube or like even Instagram and TikTok and all those things like because
[00:36:14] brands at then they want to sell products so you have to show the products to the brands to look at you and say like I want to sponsor these people because these people are representing my product and I want to give my product and I want to give
[00:36:28] money give a good budget to this person to travel and to show my brand because it's going to be worth it at then because like we live in a completely capitalist it's just over the English same in particular live in a capitalist world so
[00:36:47] like at the end the brands they want to be bigger and they want sponsor people that are going to help them maybe to sell more so sometimes it's just like find the way to be able
[00:37:00] to train to be able to get better to be able to try to travel to leave the life you believe but at the same time do the part that sometimes not that fun but it's part of the job like
[00:37:15] be able to show the product to more people and make the brands proud and wanting to have you. That's true that makes sense in order to do that all those pieces have to fall into place and it's not easy work for other if no for other
[00:37:33] you so I think looks really easy like a lot of people say you have the best life you just traveling like with your boyfriend everywhere with your friends and like this is the part you see I'm happy you're seeing this and I have you
[00:37:47] think this because this is like this is important like this is we're trying to spread this sports and like what we believe in lifestyle so if people are thinking that is doing a good job but there's a lot of work behind the scenes
[00:38:03] to make it happen. I can imagine like even this this latest trip that you just took there's obviously like how long did it take you to plan that and obviously you're brought a bunch of gear as well so that is sometimes even
[00:38:18] just complete chaos. Yes we was trying to plan the trips since a long time but because Madagascar is really complicated and far from everything was kind of hard but just sort of fly to the 72 hours just to get there and we travel with like
[00:38:37] two big board bags and two big bags full of gear because we had no idea what to expect and we were stressed like the first days because we didn't know about the wind forecast was always changing so we didn't have internet either so they're like
[00:38:52] the the lead the person that the oh the camp would be like here's the morning forecast you're like this is all you get and then like okay where does that work we're like I don't know maybe try here or here okay hopefully that works also so
[00:39:14] are there expectations obviously expectations for delivery of the people like you get certain things that they want to see is there a director at the end of this thing hey we want four or five things are you have the creative kind of
[00:39:31] to just produce your own thing. I mean it's really nice I feel like with F1 like they give a lot of creatives opportunity for the right roadward okay yeah I feel like all the content is really really cool and kind of wild and it's not like
[00:39:52] cookie cutter you know so I think like really allow you to kind of do whatever you want which is really cool obviously there's deliverables like photos and a video from the trip and then kind of the everything kind of trickles down from there whether you need like
[00:40:08] reels for Instagram or whatever and and then the raw thing but the goal for the trip is to make like a longer form kind of movie about about the whole trip okay which is stressful because you kind of you plan it out and you
[00:40:24] think about the days about like okay this is the story we tell for this day is the story we tell for this day and then like you film which is the the weird thing about like water sports is like it doesn't cooperate with you like almost ever
[00:40:38] it's like we're like film and intro we film like getting ready pumping up the kite and okay this is the shots we're going to go do it is just like the times that it actually works and you're
[00:40:49] like the amount of like rigging shots I have that are just thrown away are wild but and then like sometimes you just be like oh yeah I got one shot from that session one from shot from that session and you got it up it's it's a very fun
[00:41:07] puzzle that you kind of put together every single trip and sometimes it works and has a dozen things. In other things like never waste an opportunity like if it's a little way they and like a long time maybe we should wait
[00:41:20] no when you're doing this kind of trips you never wait you can be as tired like doesn't matter you just go. Remember one day. Oh go ahead. That's kind of. I was going to say there's lighting involved in all these other
[00:41:34] things for to make sure that everything looks. Yeah well yeah it's go go and there's wind and then. Yeah we need the water with the good light but you have to get back. There's like one day as he was a second day and was a little stormy.
[00:41:51] No the second day that we went like a little dowends but in the middle of the Owens because it was super beautiful blue water and sunny and then the wind was crazy strong like really really strong and then it was like strapless free style time and I didn't
[00:42:05] had my strap was bored there because I thought would be like just waste like was a 20 feet forecast. I was like why did my strapless board? I don't need it but it didn't bring so I was like doing strapless with a different board that's also good for
[00:42:19] strapless but not like the one I used all the time and then I was really tired but the sunset was beautiful and then you should go wing. It was like then it's like you should go and it was like okay
[00:42:31] I go and I was so tired that then I was this high. Half the time she's like if you pump up my wing about you're fine just flip it up. Get your camera ready you're good. I mean it's a good strategy. Oh yeah we're just sorry.
[00:42:51] I was like I had some water can you put my wing and then I go okay I'll go and hit my wings ready. Oh nice. So those like 20 foot sets rolling in and you're swinging in that? No, okay.
[00:43:06] Maybe put some way above we couldn't go out of the bay. No no it's like we're in each and there's like a hundred yards of like five five foot and then there's a big reef and then call the waves you know they're so like right in front
[00:43:21] of where we're staying is like perfectly flat when the super beautiful and then if you went outside there was ton of courage 24 waves like oh okay. Like not not organized at all. It was had no like a big ray.
[00:43:36] Not really some of where you want to mess around with. Because the reef was all straight so no lines. Okay. Once you had it. You had it. Yes he there and there's had to be some really fun way somewhere.
[00:43:52] I'm sure but there's for us to find it like the canoe. Yeah. Oh it goes not. But I guess you tell a different story then you tell a different story and in the end like yes you're selling you're selling freedom and fun through this through F1
[00:44:09] which is an amazing wing company and foil is like I got to try their foils and at the WSI I'm on a different board and good stuff like some of their wings are probably the best brand for learning on I find.
[00:44:24] I really like I try almost all the wings because in competition we kind of switch around sometimes after competition and I really think like F1 is like the easiest and like for me was the best thing maybe because I was used to it and I don't know.
[00:44:41] I don't want to like push F1 here is not about this but I really like doing it light and easy and the fire is really good and I feel like a lot of brands they have like all kind of like.
[00:44:52] All kinds of things and excuse to not be the best is like oh because we have a lot of gear like we have all kinds of gear and then you have foil company saying like we're the best because we're foil companies and I feel like
[00:45:02] F1 they're able to have kinds, kite boards wing boards like foil boards and everything like for me the best or probably one of the best having all this and for me being sponsored by this brand is really good because I'm a kind to an annoying
[00:45:16] voiler so it's really important to have a brand that's good in everything. This is really like a lot of brands for citing or really good for winging and again I feel very lucky like being sponsored by a brand that I can have like all
[00:45:29] the gear and Madagascar was like showing me this a lot because I was switching like into like surffiling, wingfiling, like citing like at the end one day I was doing everything that was crazy. Yeah no I loved F1 I learned on them and yeah yeah
[00:45:48] the swing V1 actually the first version is pretty five it was a five meter. It was hands down better and I ride for KTS and amateur kind of rider now so I'm riding all their stuff but I still my mom still has
[00:46:02] the knf1 wing and my buddy does too so yeah it's good stuff it's definitely good. What were your first wing-foiling experiences like to do instantly fall in love with it was forlating weird like how did you find that?
[00:46:16] Um, my first I probably had a relatively easy wing-foiling experience because of the citing like like I knew I knew sales and wind and then I knew foils from like foil racing. But my two first experience was it one who was in Sherman Island in San Francisco.
[00:46:39] It was like 25 knots all like a sinker board and a 120 which is not what you wanted all and then my friend gave me his wing with a waist belt with like the words velcro ever so I literally went paddle out held the wing up and I was like
[00:46:57] and it just shot out of my hands waist belt came off and then it just went way down the river that on this rock and just sat there and I like swam in and then I like tried it. Like it was lucky it was just 25 knots
[00:47:10] like it was just windy on like a 4.5 or something like that so I was like I was up and going but just like absolute chaos and hectic and crashing and I couldn't could go to a toci or anything and then my second one was like
[00:47:23] I was like that experience. I learned a lot like that would be fun so I went out at my home break at C-S in Ventura and I was like I'll get a smaller wing and like same board so a sinker board I'd like a 4 in like 15 knots
[00:47:36] and I just sat there and then one guy was like can you like please take my stuff out you look you're never going to get out. So I got up and like I think I caught a couple of waves on my second session. Whoa yeah decent.
[00:47:52] But that like well I just wanted to put some. I was going to ask you how fast are you ripping on those foils in your cut racing. Citing when I was doing it they were getting to like
[00:48:05] the mid to high 30 knots and now I'd pretty sure they're going faster so but yeah the foils are like they're so I rode one in wood river last year like after not touching it and the things are they're so locked in they go straight
[00:48:24] anything else like after that's your foil it in your life through through through like you can't cross like right god like I tried to attack it and like okay we're going to turn it was like oh my god. Yeah so it's definitely a different experience but
[00:48:40] try to be fast. Yeah I'm not really into like high-filing I just try with my normal like surf fighting boards and I go and come back but I don't know I'm from real like we don't really have this kind of wind here it either like for strong or
[00:48:58] super light you're not super strong like strong enough to heightwave or like knowing that all so and I've never like really got into it. But now I'm curious because I've seen a lot in Galavana. It's funny a couple of my friends say that I'm like a wind stop
[00:49:18] and I counter it and say I'm a gear stop and then like they're like oh you don't want to wing in six knots on a seven meter in the downward board and I'm like no I can go I go 30 got high foils so I'm gonna yeah fair enough.
[00:49:36] Yeah and I think we're slowly I think so correct me if I'm wrong but before it was so regimented if you're a wind surfer you were not allowed to look like you didn't like fighters and if you're a fighter you despise
[00:49:50] when surfers and if you got in trouble nobody would help each other but I think we're starting to slowly see that you can go to the beach and you got seven tools and you can choose one and it's all about the same thing.
[00:50:02] But I find that hopefully let's start in a I think how many others are doing multiple things now. Yeah seems like everybody's doing at least at least two of them you know and but like in hood rivers like the downwinders are frustrated with the fighters
[00:50:18] they're going cross so the downwinds are going this way and like the wingers are doing like something slightly different so it's definitely like still frustrating but like everybody does false or it's so it's more just like if there's less people but yeah I don't know.
[00:50:33] It's also nice to show up to the beach with like one foil and a wing or something like that or just your kite stuff because it's like so nice to show up. Because when I have like conditions good for it you're like no
[00:50:44] I got to go home or something like that. I think we were the last time with it this. I know it's terrible. Every time I go, okay we're going to go on a trip we're not going to bring very much. Five words by the way. God.
[00:50:55] Let's follow up. That's. So what's your favorite set up for F1 then for winging for the both of you? Mine is a thing. For both. Yeah we can talk both. I think this k950. Like if I had to choose like one foil with this k950 for
[00:51:15] winging and for surfoying and for Darwin for sure they go like the eight, nine teeth thing for good days. Okay. But I kind of like the 950 for surfing people like tiny, tiny foils but I like to have like a little bigger and like have more control than you.
[00:51:35] They make fun of me because of this but I feel like I like, I don't have to go that fast. I'm not like racing. Yeah that's true actually. Yeah. I like to be chill with be able to pump and find another way and like not be like
[00:51:49] struggling all the time and by a Darwin Darwin thing I feel like a little different. I had the good day and we're first last year. Oh my god, I'm completely crazy. I was like two months ago. Oh, we're together. I don't know.
[00:52:05] I was two months ago as well as here. I had a good day two months ago and Rupus and I feel like was the best Darwin ever like ever, ever, ever and I was riding my ego eight, nine teeth and I think this is my favorite foil now.
[00:52:22] So for surfoying and winging probably they skate a little smaller if I'm going winging like probably 750 and 50 if I'm going surfing and for Darwin's in the ego. And then it's riding a different brand now. Yeah, I ride the car. I'm totally brings you over to one for real.
[00:52:47] Yeah. I ride the lift and okay. I don't know. I think the 120 is probably like the greatest all around the way. Like you can pretty much do everything you want on it. But yeah, I mean for a winging the 90's super fun for like a little bit
[00:53:09] bigger waves, the 90 in the 20 and then downwinding any of their high aspect stuff like I just did the summer to them Mulkai to Waffle on the 150. Oh no way. I was pretty sweet too. So how was that adventure? It was wild. Yeah. Yeah, it was super cool.
[00:53:31] Like that was my first time doing that run. I didn't really practice for it. I did a bunch of training that in Brazil and like and in California and that's kind of stuff and pretty much just went over there blind and I was like, okay. Here we go.
[00:53:48] And yeah, I did relatively well. I definitely didn't. I think like if I had a longer board that was probably the only thing I would change. Just go really long board just for the the paddle in with the end. But the race is cool. It's like so cool.
[00:54:06] Just be around. Everybody that's just stoked on finally like you talked everybody there just stoked to downwind. Like if not like they've stoked for the race specifically. Like oh, we're just doing a big downwind with everybody and show off some gear, show off working on but it's like
[00:54:21] it's such a cool experience. So fair enough, what was your first downwinds like because that's the thing right now? I had a miserable balance my first one. I don't remember I guess it was like two year this lady away in the beginning. No, I yeah,
[00:54:41] no that was after. No, so okay. So my first one I was like, ah, it'll be easy. I've net like no stop experience what's oh, sorry. I'm not sure. It's not something. My first one I did this little short runner in Ventura. It's like this perfect like two
[00:54:59] mile run that goes. It's just like a slightly on shore so you just catch away when you pump out the back and then you can kind of surf waves down the whole thing or you can kind of pump out and get into the wind chop.
[00:55:13] So it was really easy just get into it and I said, short runners for like a year and just like you go you fall, you paddle in. You fight away, you do it again. Just to find it to suck. Kind of thing. Just because there was
[00:55:26] there wasn't sucked out when okay. It was like that's all you did and then we slowly started to hear about it and like me Matt Matkost and Cole were like like Matt got into it and said, you got to do it. So I borrowed this board that was
[00:55:45] like a square. It's like 20 28 inches wide or something like that for like surfing. And I was like, I figured out, I'll figure it out. I don't know. And I went out and ended up patdling on my stomach downwind for like four miles. That was my first.
[00:56:02] Like could it, I couldn't stand on the board for longer than like two seconds before falling off and then we're back to the ocean or like the surf and try to figure out there and then with the up there to river and and figured it out there. So.
[00:56:16] But yeah, I was my struggle. Yeah. If not, I already told me when he was trying to convince me to start stepfiling. Not at all. It's really easy. You're going to love this thing. It's I'm sure you're going to go to work for a brand.
[00:56:32] You're going to learn in one day. This is why he told me. But no, yeah. The entry or the barrier to entry for Darwin finally now is so much less than it was when I started to get into the ocean. It's not like I learned like
[00:56:51] ten years earlier. It was like a year before and like the boards were all like the skinniest board. I could find it was like 24 inches wide and ever. You know, they're like the next board I got. I'm like, oh, do I go to 21 inches wide?
[00:57:06] And now that my board's like 17 inches wide. Like in her board's 18. So how long take you to balance on that? Like you're getting up, but you're starting a new journey. So I'm going to take a little bit of a time to take a look at the
[00:57:21] time that takes off because it has that hull so it's pretty fast. Like how long did it take you to be able to stand up? How do I come up to become something? From zero-suff experience to Darwinine was I think 10 days. But that was like with Darwin experience.
[00:57:38] Like once I popped up, I could do it. There's a lot of guys now learning with like zero Darwin experience in zero-suff experience. But oh, that is true. Yeah. But like there's people I'm like, oh, you got the pop up now you just downwind and it's epic.
[00:57:53] And they're like, how do I down when you're like, oh, oh no. Look on that. So I was like, I got a cushy cushion. Intrigated. No, the thing way. I was citing and towing her up and toacheter that way. Yeah, this is true.
[00:58:08] This is how we started in Sera. Photographer and towing coach. Yeah. I would ship. But it was with the, I was sorry. It was with the, the fireboard. We weren't Sera. When it's like super windy and top-y. And like I was downwinding with my wing, but it's different.
[00:58:27] Because you got a little bit of any trouble. Put your wing up and you go. So you've seen you know how Darwin, but it's not true. If the really wrong idea. Like I was like, I know how to Darwin, they're fine. They can go forever in a bomb.
[00:58:40] But it's not really. Because you never have your wing. You feel so safe. They make last mistakes and you just put your wing up and it's different. So they know how to do it. Let's try to go just with a surfboard, like just the fireboard, no wing.
[00:58:55] And I was like fine. And I couldn't go like. So the paddle to the wing makes a heck of a difference in. Yeah. The thing is like. The first thing like when when I find a learn how to like, I'm going to learn how to like,
[00:59:11] Darwin on a fireboard. I was like, okay, now I have to learn how to go peddling. And for me, like the part of sending on the board was not hard. So the first like ideas like, okay, it's not that bad. I can I can stand on my board.
[00:59:28] But then trying to pedal. I had no idea how to like to pump or like how to like the movement like my hard work like zero speed. Because when you're with your wing, you release your wing, but you have this speed already. But when you're peddling,
[00:59:44] you have to generate the speeds, which is something like completely know for people that don't have the like peddling or like foiling whatever experience like surffiling because I didn't know how to pump from one way to the other way at the time. So everything was built for me.
[01:00:02] And if like I took time. And I was like going really hard. Like all the time and getting really tired. And then I couldn't go next day because I was like completely dead. And then I had to wait and go again and I was like,
[01:00:19] I'm gonna do it. Like, I'm not giving up. And then I was going to do that again. And then he worked coaching like sailing now. And he tried to be a coach with me. And I was like, you stopped doing this because you're gonna fight.
[01:00:32] It's not gonna work. That doesn't make sense. So you're gonna start off get up in your knees and then like literally suck. And then get that thing up into the air and then maintain it. You don't have an old power. So look, if it's goes to touch down
[01:00:44] you just got a paddle to kind of get through that touch down and keep going kind of thing. Yeah, that'd be tough. Yes. Yeah, especially if it's not perfect. Like I was talking to Keith to bull from KT. And he was saying he was learning in Maui
[01:00:57] and saying, put river was easier because you had more opportunities to catch swell at there. Like you'll end up paddling, paddling, waiting for something, trying to get up like that would be pretty intensive. Yeah, he'd really play the place to learn. Okay. Also good to know.
[01:01:14] Yeah, and it helps more. The end is one side and the current is the other side. So it kind of helped you like to make your foyer go up and I noticed that the glide wasn't sane. Yeah. It was so good.
[01:01:28] But hey, could we talk a little bit about this magical bus that you guys live in and travel around in? Love to learn more about that thing. I built this bus a couple years ago for a TV show also. And I built the bus and my plan
[01:01:46] was go to competition and go back to the bus, travel around like be able to train in different spots because I could just drive around and like training different places. And but right after I built the bus, I built the bus and I couldn't go back
[01:02:02] to the bus for almost three years. And when I went back to the bus after that long, the bus was not working going because it was an established that was open, no roof. So the bus was like the start, the collar was terrible, like the engine was not
[01:02:16] that good because it was like a part for a long time. So May last year, we started the mission of like making the bus work again. So went to like a hundred thousand different mechanics. And it was crazy. And this is how like I
[01:02:35] met the in for a year because we had the trip to Patagonia for ten days that were filming and everything was magical and perfect. And then I said like, I'm going to go, I got to the four nights just to the little hell.
[01:02:50] And I got there and I just like gave him the bus, not working out of this mission. And he was finished he's cool in having a lot of exams and things like this. And I was like every two hours like call him like, they
[01:03:05] the bus is not moving I mean, it's high way thought that this number and I need your help. It was like, I cannot go now, like, please. The guy, the Guestation he's saying I'm going to be keeping that and you do have this really happens.
[01:03:21] And it was like, was like, this guy gonna love me forever or say he doesn't want to stay with me anymore. It's either more. Exactly. Like it doesn't mean the way for this. Like this. No. And yeah, personally he stays. Try all of life fire.
[01:03:42] Yeah, I was just a past in. It was just a test. We fixed the bus and yeah, it was a test of course. Yeah. So we fixed the bus. And the first treat, I decided to go to a river. But then it was like finishing his exams.
[01:04:00] So I went with two more to different friends. And we got there and they stayed a little bit and then they went back to Brazil and Portugal or they leave. And I stayed there for almost a month by myself with the bus.
[01:04:14] And I was like, Dane, you'd be ready because maybe I'm gonna just call you and ask you for help. And you're gonna have to fly here. And luckily everything was good. After he's exams, I'd finished everything and just float to a wood river
[01:04:30] and was or first like real trip for the bus. It was really good this year. We drove there again and had bus was really fine. So yeah, the bus was a crazy idea but everything is good now. OK.
[01:04:46] Now, did you live in that for a long time part of the year? Or do you have a home base that you come back to when you're not traveling? Now we're living six months in a bus, six months in Rio. OK. We have a house in Rio also.
[01:05:00] Like the house we're now. And like for now I just can spend six months in those river. I've been nice to the river. But I can spend six months in US and then can spend six months in Brazil. So we're kind of this.
[01:05:17] And we spend a lot of time in Sierra also because the wind is really good there. And I work with a hotel there. And I mean, it's really good to produce content for brands and train. So it's kind of like three months in Sierra,
[01:05:28] three months in Rio, a couple months in California, a couple months in the river. We're kind of like going to other places also. It's pretty cool. Yes. Thank you. If there's anybody that's kind of looking to get more into this lifestyle, what would you say to them?
[01:05:51] First thing is people think is really expensive to like live on the road because they have to buy a van or buy a bus or something like this. But the first investment, of course, is it's a little bit more than just rent a place.
[01:06:07] But if you think you're buying a bus or buying a house and then you never pay rent again in your life, like at the end it's not that bad. So we cook a lot in the bus. We definitely expensive things to guess.
[01:06:23] So I feel like a lot of people are not doing this because things much more expensive than it actually is. So this is one thing. And the other thing is like most of works, like not all the works, of course. It's possible to do remote.
[01:06:40] And of course not all the companies are open for that. But like I'm sure like all their companies would be open. So hey everyone, I'm not saying you should quit your job and find a different company. What the heck?
[01:06:53] But if it's something you really, really want to do, like it's a possibility like maybe start to look for companies different places than like start to look into van or buses or even cars sometimes just to start and it's really good.
[01:07:12] Like it's really good to be free in the site, like at night what are you gonna do next day? This is my favorite thing. Like we're going to sleep like what we should do tomorrow and sometimes with the side and sometimes we just say like okay,
[01:07:25] let's decide to be breakfast and remember this is a dream. Yeah that's pretty cool. I thought you were in a jump and then. Oh yeah. No, yeah I think I, I, I, we got a van also and it's like not really built out
[01:07:46] very much just bad in storage and some electricity and I got that for like filming stuff and so you have like a home base and it's just it's crazy like you. It's like everybody's just so addicted to it right now
[01:08:03] like it's just the craze and it's just it's so nice to have like I started the back of my like my pickup truck. I went up to the river and like slept in the back and I was like moving all my stuff out,
[01:08:13] sleeping and then moving all my stuff in and like just starting out in my truck and I look I need a little bit better system. But like it's just so nice being able to like finish surfing and you just get in your van or whatever
[01:08:26] and you're just batch your home and you're just there and you don't have to go anywhere and like for every assist, like whatever you choose like full buffs or like little tiny car like there's problems with it and it's just it's a fun experience
[01:08:42] like dealing with the problems and like whether it's bathroom or shower electricity or gas or car breaks I don't know. I think that's too it though. Exactly and it is long as like your work can function with it like even if it's you just do it
[01:08:58] for like a weekend or a trip like a year or something like that. Like so many people I talked to that have the van and like just got it and they live at home and they work and it's like all the van is so sick.
[01:09:12] It's just like such a nice like little house away from your home or whatever. Wherever it is. I didn't really think it was gonna change my life that much and like I think it changed time. So can you imagine just staying in the house for nothing?
[01:09:26] No, no, no. Let it all. So yeah there is a sense of freedom you get from being on the road and having that freedom of life's style of flexibility with the schedule and it's really, it's like her shower. Oh yeah, yeah that's true. Yeah, showers are cool.
[01:09:43] Hey can we jump and talk about your because I read you were the first female to kite surf Nazaree in Portugal? Can we talk about that? Yes. I always like big waves. I'm not a big waves or fur. Like I have a lot of friends
[01:10:02] that are big waves or fur. So this is kind of like becoming more and more common for me, like people talking about this and go to those kinds of places and it's something that maybe I was too crazy because I was definitely not ready to kite Nazaree
[01:10:17] but because my friends are all the time like you can do it, you can go. I'm sure you can do it and I was going to put on a different kind of like bigger waves and I was like, okay I want to do it.
[01:10:28] It's always waiting for the wave to work with the wind for a long time and it's really, really hard to happen because we need this specific direction with a really good swell and specific. Like everything has to be perfect
[01:10:42] and it's really hard to have everything like a line. So I waited for a long time and it never happened so I was like, okay, it's not gonna happen, it's fine. And then I was ready to go to Cape Verde for the competition and I saw the forecast
[01:10:59] and it was perfect for Nazaree. Like okay maybe I should just fly it here before and if it's good, I'll go. So I flew there not even having like all the gear like I was kind of ready and the forecast was just getting better
[01:11:17] and better and better and better and I was like, I think it gonna happen so one of my friends had a skill there and he was one of the best rescue people and surfing there and he was like, let's do this. I'll be there with you.
[01:11:32] Like we go to the beach, you put your kite in there, you go to the outside, I'll be there and we're gonna make it happen. And I was like, fine, let's do this. So I went to the beach and it was like in front of me
[01:11:48] like really in the sand like at the beach, the waves are so big like breaking in front of me and because of the cliff, the wind was like really, it was like kind of onshore and sorry kind of offshore
[01:12:00] and with the cliff, the wind was kind of crazy. And I was like okay how am I gonna do this? Cause it's really light. Like I didn't know how to go outside to the outside cause the wind was really, really light.
[01:12:10] So I put my kite in the air and I was waiting for the right moment and I was like trying to put my board in the water and I had straps at the time because it's so choppy that it's impossible to go strapless.
[01:12:21] I mean for me it was like impossible even like to think about going strapless there. No, I was trying to put my board in the water but the current was so strong that my kite was just like almost falling all the time because the current was like,
[01:12:34] I saw them like kite. So I was like I need a different strategy so I was like with my kite in there for 40 minutes and then at one point I was like okay I'm gonna just sit here and they're way of gonna come
[01:12:48] and I'm gonna start like to look my kite, look my kite, look my kite and I go with the current and I soon like the wind catch me. Like when I go a little further because of the current, my kite's gonna start to work
[01:12:59] and I go outside and it's one chance if my kite goes in the water like my friend gonna pick me up and with a jet ski and I'm done and I'll be destroyed my kite and I'm gonna be destroyed but I mean that's it. I have one chance
[01:13:13] and was good. Like I was so like he-I was like looping, looping, looping and I passed the first one and I was feeling like stronger in my kite and the kite started to like have more pressure and more pressure and at one point I was like overpowered
[01:13:30] like completely because I was so close to the beach so I didn't know how the wind would be like in outside. How we yeah? And at then there was so overpowered that I was like passing like big waves like a jet ski and then I went outside
[01:13:43] and it was so much adrenaline I remember like it was yesterday my mouth was like was dry, was the weird feeling of like oh dry and I could stop smiling like it was like the biggest my ever and my mouth was completely dry
[01:13:59] and I had like was really cold during the winter so I have like hoodies like life's best, wet suits like hers and like my harness like a good and here good and I couldn't like was just a crazy feeling of my body like really feeling super alive
[01:14:17] and I caught a few waves but was definitely really hard because the wind is a little offshore and the wind was really strong and I'm goofy so I had to go like switch which was really hard like I couldn't go close because of the offshore wind
[01:14:36] so I had to go switch and be agnastard was really not crazy but that to the repertoire how big was the wave that day? I wasn't in a position but at the same time like having straps on my board and having my kite
[01:14:53] is like being with the rope on the ski all the time so I was feeling really safe like even knowing if something goes goes wrong I'm like completely in trouble and I can die I was like okay I am doing this my whole life
[01:15:10] I know how to control my kite I just have to be focused and don't be dumb and I was trying to choose good my waves and think about what I was doing and like caught a couple of waves
[01:15:22] and I was like I think it's good for first day to don't pass the limits and I went back to the mighty nut and I was like I wanna do this my whole life this is what I wanna do like when the go find big waves
[01:15:36] all over the world for citing but then when that makes started and my train kind of melted I don't know I was fluent with this that's why I wasn't that happy about my dad got scared when they told me it would be like 20 feet
[01:15:54] and I'm goofy and he's just left there so I was like a lefty, 20 feet like super strong wind this is a dream like I was really happy about and I like those things I also went to Antarctica and I was in Antarctica before Nazare I don't know
[01:16:12] I feel like it was as hard as Nazare in a realized that adrenaline is the thing that moves me the most I really liked adrenaline and the feeling of like leaving the moment and like don't do anything wrong or you're gonna be really in trouble I like this
[01:16:31] that's awesome I'm enjoying I'm enjoying fighting and winging and like strapless restyl is nice but the feeling of like a barrel even though I have to be big but like a barrel or a nazi or like having with me to be like I swear those kind of things
[01:16:52] that make you feel like really in the moment I don't know it really makes me feel alive So you're gonna get out Nazare too then Dan and be the photog and that thing next Yeah, photographer I like me as waves small to medium
[01:17:12] I prefer that she sits on the beach judge it and then it gets big and up and she goes and I think that's so it also works out well Hey that works out well No it's not true It's not true The thing is like
[01:17:25] Dan is so passionate about surfing that whatever way he's in the water and I think I'm a little spoiled about surfing and I really like barrels So sometimes it's not good in small and like mushy and weird and windy and I'm like, okay I'm happy taking pictures
[01:17:44] and he's having to put them up the time off his life and I'm happy taking pictures but it's not about the size it's about like ambitions That's true That's true That's cool so are there any trips coming up for you both where you had enough to next?
[01:18:03] We were planning on going to Chile like maybe end off November but any of the summer not sure yet or like talks about a couple places but probably Chile I love Chile one of my favorite places in the world like I wanted to leave there
[01:18:20] a lot for many years and now I'm fine about the bus in Rio but hey we're probably going there So what spot are you gonna kite wing over there? We probably go to Matanzas to Hokakwadrada It's a couple hours from Santiago It's really good
[01:18:42] and I have some friends there It's a little cold but it's beautiful and wild and like it's really nice You have to like drive and sand to get to this spot and then it's just a couple people and like rocks and that'll fins and it's really beautiful
[01:19:00] Oh nice yeah that would be a pretty cool trip I don't know and there's like some waves around like really good for flying or winging is nice it's a beautiful place and then you build your story are there different themes of stories
[01:19:15] that you'd like to put out to people? Um Yeah, I mean we kind of talk about what it's gonna be before man I definitely um have been doing a lot of like short stuff Instagram, brand stuff um that I want to for sure like push myself
[01:19:38] to like actually tell stories do longer trips like okay have a lot of meaning behind that and I'm super happy about how Maddie asked her like halfway through editing it now no nice super happy that's starting out and so like these these kind of trips have a
[01:19:54] just a more opportunity just kind of tell the story of the trip and like we have ideas before hand, but it all changes so it's kind of based on everything and captures much as I possibly can and as as they say is the magic in the editing
[01:20:10] so you kind of just pull pull what you can and as long as you like I don't know I always have to tell myself like just like it's super easy to get frustrated like when you're like filming like us I'm not getting what I think
[01:20:23] I should have got or whatever and then majority of the time I look back at what I do have and I'm like oh that's actually pretty cool I was like kept filming you know so like I'm like really forcing myself just like keep filming keep telling the story
[01:20:36] and keep like keep pushing at it and like it all it'll happen so I also the idea for chili I don't know yet you know well we'll we're going for finding a good swell and what happens happens so yeah this will be different like this time
[01:20:51] for the first time we're gonna wait for the swell and fly for the swell because normally all trips would just like find a date and we go and we have where we have and that's it but he's not that far from Rio's like for our flying
[01:21:05] maybe a little longer but yeah maybe a little longer but anyways not like really far so it's okay to wait for the swell and fly and make everything easier and better also so I hope this will be more like more about action because we had one
[01:21:25] like really tell these stories like my the gaskar and now have one more like good way to good way and like bigger swell and yeah more about real storm chasers yes that's it oh that's awesome nice guys well hey is there anything else that you both wanted to
[01:21:45] chat about or get out to the public about F1 or just anything else in general um we're talking about the gear and I talked about my flight was but not about the wing and you told me learn how to wing with the swing which is funny
[01:22:03] that you probably had the same experience about like changing for the strike the hook and talking about gear I'm back into the swing now how real and then thing is really really good so I feel like a lot of people really like thinking the swing
[01:22:17] was more for the for beginners and like people that were not really like good enough to try the strike and maybe it was true the last swing I don't even know much because I changed this strike like really fast but the new swing is really good
[01:22:34] especially for people that like waves ah okay yeah this I didn't get to know good to know I mean like riding the swing a lot now I mean now I'm not riding anything but like as soon as I'm back I was riding a lot in my
[01:22:51] the guys go okay what kind of wings are you riding then uh her waist her wings and no I don't really have an obligation to ride like I ride freedom foil boards and then lift so okay kind of ride whatever wing I want that one wings are six
[01:23:13] oh yeah they're under yeah and she lets me still and I haven't popped up with yet so lots of energy keep going hey that's cool that's cool well hey like I want to say thanks a lot for for joining sharing and this is more just about talking
[01:23:28] about life and and all your adventures I really appreciate it of course thank you for inviting us what's cool yeah it's fun yeah better work yeah well we sort of had our technical issues and but yeah it'd be nice to have you back on
[01:23:43] maybe next time you hit Nizarra some some other spot we can hook up and just uh and share some more stories sure of course awesome well hey thanks for joining and hey everybody thanks for joining us tonight we'll see you next time thank you and thank you