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[00:01:29] Welcome to the winglife podcast, where we talk about wing foiling and the lifestyles of those who
[00:01:35] enjoy this great sport. All right everybody take two balls. We're going to do a special Q&A session
[00:01:41] right now because I got to say that video you sent us over, that was pretty cool. We appreciate that.
[00:01:49] Thank you. Well I hope I can answer your questions. All right so we're going to go over here on Instagram
[00:01:58] and we have, our first one is from MUNARIV that was four days ago they asked,
[00:02:06] what glove brand and thickness are you using for winging?
[00:02:11] Always the main problem between cold grips and cramps. We talked a little bit about this last time
[00:02:17] but you're welcome to give a short little answer if you want.
[00:02:19] Well I think at the moment there's many brands selling these open palm mittens
[00:02:25] and these open palm mittens are the best or most efficient wing gloves but when it gets below zero
[00:02:34] it's freezing cold in these and that's probably the case and the biggest problem
[00:02:39] and I started combining these open palm gloves with like thin wet suit or even just thin worker gloves
[00:02:48] so that kind of, good idea. Yeah and these like this thin worker gloves they like they keep
[00:02:57] your hand dry let's say and at the same time the open palm is like blocking the wind so
[00:03:05] I'm combining gloves like this and my all-time favorite is like the all-like the closed mittens
[00:03:13] pre-curved from duck kind which I guess is not produced anymore at the moment
[00:03:18] if you get your hands on one of these you're definitely just keep them.
[00:03:24] All right question number two from Annie and that underscore QSNY we got is it Swiss chocolate
[00:03:31] or Swiss cheese and which gives you superpowers. Superpowers. You know awful maltein,
[00:03:39] awful maltein is definitely the best thing ever this chocolate is magic if you eat a
[00:03:45] chocolate awful maltein bar it's like you eat dynamite you explode you like you eat one bite as
[00:03:52] you get out there and you can stay all day so imagine you do like an awful maltein fondue
[00:03:57] so you're doing a chocolate fondue. Annie I hope you're listening to this
[00:04:03] I guess I get you know I love chocolate and I mean I do eat way too much chocolate but I guess
[00:04:10] that's normal as a Swiss you got to I mean we don't have the coconut so we you gotta take in the
[00:04:20] cacao. The awful maltein is really good and cheese I mean it's not only famous yeah I eat
[00:04:29] cheese almost every day as well and there's like so much good Swiss cheese especially also like some
[00:04:37] stronger like hard-alp cheese is like phenomenal. But you guys have
[00:04:44] Jevilleau de Role like unpasturized farm fresh kind of cheese places there. It does yeah and y'all
[00:04:50] see the valleys you can buy this stuff of sometimes off the farmer and then definitely someone
[00:04:57] knows someone who's a farmer who has the chance to to sell you the cheese like under the table
[00:05:05] that's kind of how it works probably in the Swiss mountains.
[00:05:08] Teddy Bear asked how was he so awesome so that's a hard question to answer but
[00:05:15] woo I just I just I just enjoy my life the fullest and go out there every day wake up in the
[00:05:22] morning and have a great time and share the stock with people and dream about surfing
[00:05:29] surf all day yeah that's kind of the way I'm there's rarely a morning I get up and I feel like
[00:05:38] I'd what should I do today there's always something you can do out there just go out there
[00:05:43] and have fun and don't don't stick to your four walls switch connell in the end like squeeze
[00:05:51] you into the corner so go out there under the blue big white sky Vincent d'Oto windsurf said
[00:06:02] best wing spot other than your home spot the home spot is always the best place flag the story that
[00:06:10] at night you're landing all your tricks I mean my place at night is like the best place ever they're
[00:06:17] waived spiraling up my place at night but no one else did it before no it's not existing the dream place
[00:06:26] yeah oh I serious I think the best dream place is the one you create in your mind and like this
[00:06:34] mind game of surfing in that dream place location definitely helps you progressing also at your real
[00:06:43] three place and as he as he mentioned very nice you don't need to go you don't need to travel too far
[00:06:51] often like the good is just outside your doorstep and just appreciate also what you got back home
[00:06:58] yeah that's a good point actually yeah that's a good point wing foil gear for speed versus freestyle
[00:07:05] another question from Vincent which do you prefer you know speed is speed is a hard thing speed
[00:07:11] is the coolest thing in water sport because you can challenge yourself anytime and everywhere on your
[00:07:17] own you put the watch on and you challenge yourself you tune your gear or whatever I've been
[00:07:22] actually on my own I took like imaginary after wing and the wing has like this really fat
[00:07:28] thick leading edge and I took the pool noodles like those swimming noodles and I duct tape them
[00:07:35] onto the leading edge then I took an old wing and I kind of with the old wing I close the profile
[00:07:41] like a real wing and that it is two years ago and I was so freaking fast on that wing because it had
[00:07:48] a proper serious profile so it looked like a real foil so and that kind of way I was really fast
[00:07:55] and it felt effortless and now you're seeing on the market a few brands now coming up with these
[00:08:01] profile wings but the case is if you drop in the water it gets heavy as it feels to profile with
[00:08:09] water and then it's just not easy and for me it always needs to be easy and that's why nothing
[00:08:14] nothing beats freestyle because freestyle or free ride I will call it free riding free ride that's
[00:08:20] what it's all about because it's going out there you can measure yourself to speed or whatever
[00:08:25] but it needs to be simple and wing foiling is a simple sport and the more complicated we make it
[00:08:32] probably it's going to lose a bit of its charm so freestyle for sure always
[00:08:39] and if you're into speed your money to get creative and start making your wing
[00:08:46] June your wing with duct tape that's a good point actually all right so
[00:08:53] Toto Swiss so Tio Tio Swiss as asks his thoughts on paddle downwind on lakes so
[00:09:01] downwind paddling your thoughts on it yeah although he was following me kite falling the other day
[00:09:07] so I'm kind of surprised that he's asking if he should just try it on his own you know
[00:09:13] I would we try to convince him as well eventually one day he's gonna try it on with or he's
[00:09:19] already trying but the case is also kite falling can be fun on the lake so if you're happy doing
[00:09:25] it it's fine but hey honestly adding it Switzerland we have some really good world class downwinding
[00:09:33] because the ocean waves are sometimes too big for downwinding and these small little lake rollers
[00:09:38] they're so close next to each other it just goes on its own so give it a go you're gonna toy
[00:09:47] what foil are you using for downwinding it's your favorite you can make your life easy starting
[00:09:52] with the bigger foil but the case is it's really hard to find the foil that's matching the speed
[00:09:58] of the waves and on the lake you can definitely go on small on bigger foils because the top is small
[00:10:04] and it goes quite slow and in one direction so just don't think that you're gonna be it's like
[00:10:11] in wing foiling as well don't think you're gonna be a pro and then just cook yourself with way to
[00:10:16] small equipment and then you struggle just one or two months longer instead of having fun on the big
[00:10:23] big easy foil and progress on that one and even me sometimes I do run another thousand nine hundred
[00:10:30] squares yeah and foil is over a huge foil and I carve the sheet out of the lake and then my goal
[00:10:36] is not to go as fast as possible but to surf as much as possible like lake surfing
[00:10:41] or lake surfing yeah that's super fun surf and climb.de said 310 days on the water in 23
[00:10:51] how do you manage we talked a little bit about this but how do you manage family life
[00:10:55] marriage and with such an intense career well I guess my wife would be also or even more days
[00:11:02] on the water than me because she's also very passionate so it's definitely always to fight who
[00:11:07] goes first on the water but she's sharing most of the sessions and definitely with the child we had
[00:11:14] to adapt but often we're eating dinner at the lake so one of us can sail until sunset so that's we
[00:11:22] just we we we adapt all our lives into water sports and we luckily we're doing it together so we
[00:11:30] sharing the same stock unless it gets below zero degrees then she's not yeah she's not she's not
[00:11:39] she's not doing it for the numbers so do I am not I'm not going out there just to have the numbers
[00:11:45] you know doing 300 days a year it doesn't matter how many days you do it just matters the quality
[00:11:51] of these days and I'm I mean I eat day even a gray rainy day I'm gonna joy as much as as I can
[00:12:00] that's good so now we have stamp pro 393 underscore coaching are you going to visit
[00:12:06] Naxos Naxos O.S Island next summer where is that Naxos is in Greece in the Netherlands it's beautiful
[00:12:15] the food is so good it's it's affordable as well and the wind is really good I've been going I've
[00:12:23] been very lucky growing up in growing into a family which is very passionate for traveling and
[00:12:30] we always we never had like big budget but we've we always traveled to the sea like any time any
[00:12:36] possibility we've been at the sea and we've been spending like the three brothers and and the
[00:12:42] parents we've been spending a lot of time in Naxos when I was a child and this lagoon there is
[00:12:47] perfect for for progressing especially at the young age because you can stand in the shallow lagoon
[00:12:53] you can also foil in the lagoon so I wish to get back there again as soon as possible hopefully
[00:13:00] but let's see I don't know where where I'm going next is in the hole to to to see you all
[00:13:07] all right next one we have Lora underscore NILS and ILS or and then where is wingeding headed
[00:13:19] downwind was the newest thing for 2023 and and then she has a I think it's a she and then she
[00:13:26] has a secondary question or maybe it's a guy how many boards do you have so I guess we'll start off
[00:13:30] with where do you think wingeding is headed for 2024 the crazy thing about like some people say
[00:13:37] all there goes to winger when he starts downwinding and it's true a few of my friends they're
[00:13:42] fully into downwinding now but they still really like wing foiling at the same time and maybe we
[00:13:49] can even combine it you know going upwind with the wing and then downwind with the sub I've been
[00:13:55] doing quite a few wing upwinders downwinders where I pack the wing in the backpack but it's
[00:14:01] it's a challenge it's if you want to challenge yourself and go out there and have an adventure
[00:14:07] do an upwinder with the wing I personally I always like strap with velcro my paddle to the
[00:14:14] to the strap and then I'll do it at the top pack the wing and then I go down it's it's cool
[00:14:21] I don't know where this is going it's definitely I'm you know the cool thing about
[00:14:27] foiling or general surfing the legs are so wide and big and open surface that it's it splits it's
[00:14:35] there's enough space for anybody and everybody to surf out there on the legs compared to the shore
[00:14:40] line where like people sit on each other and I don't want to be the guy in the lineup with the
[00:14:44] foil where there's like 10 people sitting around and downwinding gets you out there served the
[00:14:50] longest ways of your life 18k or even longer one right that's oh I love it it's beautiful
[00:14:57] it definitely not the same like getting barrel but the sensation of carving down a wind swell is
[00:15:04] beautiful that's true actually yeah there is a lot less competition in this because we're kind
[00:15:10] of more in the open question number two from him how many boards do you own a few
[00:15:18] no I have too many boards but you you can only surf one board at once so it's useless to have
[00:15:24] multiple boards but I got to add as well in our surf club I'm sharing most of my boards if someone
[00:15:31] wants to try it stay and I'm I'm having a few boards like my 57 that's where I want to go
[00:15:40] that's my girlfriend my wife is jealous because I almost spend more time with that board than we
[00:15:45] heard no but it's um but I try to I try to have not too much equipment but there's definitely a
[00:15:52] quiver of like six boards which been regularly used and that's insane I mean we should yeah
[00:16:00] order to do this board okay all right we got cereal uh my yeah insta so do you snowboard with wing
[00:16:11] we did snowboard with the wing in the very since the very beginning I mean I've done a few
[00:16:17] I was when I started wing falling not that long ago which feels like four or five years ago
[00:16:23] we straight took it on to the snow and also on to the skateboard and for progressings no wing in
[00:16:30] can be good you can learn the type how to change the hands so yes it's insane you're probably gonna
[00:16:36] like it but you're not gonna go when you expect it to be perfect in like deep powder snow
[00:16:42] because it's very physical best is to have like old fast icy snow and then you're just gonna
[00:16:49] cruise with debris and it's nice and then the other thing is I I jumped off this clip I clipped
[00:16:54] I remember one of the first day snow foiling and I've shoot like straight out and I was about like
[00:17:00] five six meter in the air that didn't know what to do and then like when the wing starts like
[00:17:05] front stall and you're dead so it's crazy where this cano go should cano cucko but it's not a
[00:17:13] paraglide and once in the air that's what I'm always saying once in the air on the water surface
[00:17:18] nothing will ever open like almost nothing happens but if you're in the air in the real air out
[00:17:24] up there and something goes wrong it's not gonna be fun anymore so watch out kid
[00:17:31] good to good to note all right the next one from Bjorn L.A.U.S.C.H.K.E Instagram lake versus ocean
[00:17:41] wing foiling and then i.e. adjustment of technique and material to light wind and gusty conditions
[00:17:48] usage of higher aspect wings to glide through lulls yeah well it's a really good question point
[00:17:54] and what's very interesting about it is the density of the water there's a difference not a huge
[00:18:00] difference but still two points something that makes a difference and I remember I always
[00:18:06] felt it when being in the holidays and then coming back home so at the sea you theoretically
[00:18:12] can ride a smaller foil than here on the fresh water lakes but then it also depends if it's colder
[00:18:18] water warmer water so definitely it makes a huge difference and it's fun that he thinks about
[00:18:24] higher aspect to glide in that's definitely one way to look at it but my opinion that it's
[00:18:31] would always share with the world is just going a bigger foil especially in fresh water
[00:18:38] and don't think that we need these like super tiny front wings yet probably with better
[00:18:44] profit profiles and efficiency we can ride those super small blades but right now just
[00:18:51] taking consideration that fresh water needs a little bit more otherwise you're going to be
[00:18:56] here in Sivablana at the lake and you're just not gonna get cold yeah and you're like back home
[00:19:01] on the fresh on the on the on the salty sea you're flying in like 12 knots
[00:19:05] year it's different yeah that's true also the density of the air makes a difference
[00:19:10] but yeah it's a cool point so bigger foil bigger wing that completely makes sense and our
[00:19:17] social media guru Frank Bingle asks where do you see yourself and the wing sport in 10 years
[00:19:25] where will the wing foils pour go I hope to be I mean I hope to be still
[00:19:31] shredding as hard as right now and if it's gonna be less less shredding definitely still sharing
[00:19:37] the stock of water sport it always being my dream to become a water man live from water sport for
[00:19:44] water sport live it to full list and yeah I'm definitely still going to be out there at the place
[00:19:53] probably as soon as the sun gets up and the ride all day that would be my dream like just
[00:19:59] recently my birthday I've been on the water almost all day that's what I love doing
[00:20:05] and um and yeah I definitely definitely gonna brother instead of competing I'm probably gonna turn
[00:20:12] a lot of sharing my experience and I love to see the progress especially of younger kids
[00:20:18] so I love to if if I can be the person that kicks someone in the ass that he tries to backflip
[00:20:25] for me that's very fulfilling so I'm I gonna do that more as well in the future and definitely try
[00:20:32] to produce good gear that's providing fun to all of us and um I'm not sure what's gonna be in 10
[00:20:40] years and a little afraid that we're gonna hover over the water with drones it's gonna be very
[00:20:46] technical like something crazy for sure yeah but if you ask me like five years ago what's gonna be
[00:20:52] your next thing I never ever thought that wing falling will come along and then pull my I've seen
[00:20:59] in it I was like hook to it and yeah just what's what's definitely gonna be gonna be for sure is if
[00:21:07] there's something new coming up and I'm definitely not gonna close my eyes I will give it a go and
[00:21:13] make my thoughts afterwards I not just sit around at the beach until I another stupid sport level
[00:21:20] gonna stick to fin surfing just be open minded and see what comes
[00:21:29] you heard it folks yeah so we're gonna have to love all sports and okay so Peter Vav here how do I
[00:21:35] stop breaching when I go very fast or is it something that he should practice to get used to
[00:21:41] no that's yeah that's where a very good point breaching can be learned and that right now
[00:21:47] I'm practicing on my bark side so behind my shoulder breaching the foil and if you do this
[00:21:54] I would not breach at higher speeds first I will breach at low speed and look at your wing tip how
[00:21:59] your wing tips slowly starts getting in like out of the water surface and slowly getting back into
[00:22:06] it as well and if you keep doing this for ages you will be like in an uncomfortable position where
[00:22:13] your boards wiggles around or like your breaches out of the water you will be safe or let's say in control
[00:22:20] and breaching foil tips is a big thing most of the foil these days can breach without any problem if
[00:22:26] they're not having like winglets pointing down so you should practice it and yeah at higher speed
[00:22:33] it's a crazy thing some of the foils if they have if they have rake and the foil breaches they
[00:22:39] cut back into the water and then your nose gets cut up like you know it points into the water and
[00:22:44] you cut up all that over but definitely if you know what to expect at what's gonna happen
[00:22:50] you're gonna it can't save your ass so lurk the breach is a big thing and you should do it not
[00:22:55] just on your front side also on your backside so um that you you preach and even in a flat water
[00:23:02] it says to like two days ago I was actually doing a lot of breaching practicing with my friend on
[00:23:07] the sap in eight knots of wind on the flat lake we were like cruising etching the board
[00:23:12] like catching up the wind tips out of the water and keep riding like this you know so you can do it
[00:23:18] on any foil and then cool thing is also like just doing these curves and like if you if you hold
[00:23:24] your wind you're quite safe you can put not too much pressure on the board and I also realized
[00:23:30] not pushing it straight like up to the edge and straight off the edge instead of like just getting
[00:23:36] it smoothed up smooth down it's a cool thing and then next thing is breaching a 360 yeah next
[00:23:44] thing is breaching a 360 doing a car thing up with breach car thing down with breach that's oh
[00:23:51] cool stuff yeah actually like an upwind 360 like that that would be sweet yeah around the world
[00:23:57] and you can carve them quite radical and I in if if someone is asking me to to try a front side
[00:24:04] 360 in year I'm telling him first you breach a radical car thing 360 and then you're going to do
[00:24:11] the same but then with a little with a little hop and then you have it basically so you you
[00:24:17] can learn the wind control they have a breaching yeah it's important and I think most of the people
[00:24:24] that think it's not meant to happen it's sticking the water but it's not it's always there's always
[00:24:30] any by mistake something's happening it's just gonna pull you off the board if you're if you're not
[00:24:37] aware of and what do you prefer high aspect low aspect mid aspect mid aspect sounds good because
[00:24:48] it's just like I don't like the radical parts because I mean there's always a compromise you cannot
[00:24:55] build a formula one car that can go off road so it's a mid aspect in my opinion seems to be working
[00:25:04] very fine because they like the golden gold gold middle but definitely like the latest three
[00:25:11] means to have a high aspect that serves like a low aspect but this is oh yeah it's not gonna
[00:25:18] it's not gonna happen or gonna exist but it's with I mean the latest foil is they're going into
[00:25:23] this direction that you you have like the glide of high aspect you can breach without problems
[00:25:28] and you can serve it like a smaller foil but I think foils are as individual as as persons so each
[00:25:37] person gonna meet his own foils in a certain way fair enough let's see fair enough and I think our
[00:25:43] last question of the day what is your favorite setup oh then which sport in you know what
[00:25:52] board thing not all my favorite set up for we want to know you wall windsurfing windsurfing
[00:25:58] downwind paddling kiting and then we're going to bring all the sports together under one roof today
[00:26:04] in a way skateboarding away I do have this skateboard the wings skating no I'm at the moment you know
[00:26:12] in windsurfing it's easy to answer I love like I'm supported by server and I love to
[00:26:17] serve in equipment equipment for the revolution from Australia I love the three three freak which
[00:26:24] is a freestyle sale and as it's a freestyle sale in a smaller size it kind of briefs really
[00:26:32] nice and it's not so rigid and direct like other storm sales so that sale has something magic
[00:26:38] and then I'm matching it with a freestyle board the psycho which is really good for freestyle in
[00:26:43] stronger winds as well because it's like a small skateboard and these days with these like double
[00:26:48] triple rotations the only thing limiting us is basically just up here like as we if we were boost
[00:26:56] the way we're boosting a cooler which is like this rodeo spin in flat water if you take off the same
[00:27:04] way on a two meter wave you probably would do like four or five or infinity rotations in the year
[00:27:11] so it's I'm curious what's yet to come in windsurfing but um definitely foiling killed it a bit
[00:27:16] the freestyle windsurf part yeah yeah and going going towards foiling now which is also the way
[00:27:23] the reason why Switzerland you have a handful of big days windsurfing big days with a fin on the
[00:27:30] foil it can be on the water definitely every second day so foiling is a game changer and windsurf
[00:27:36] foiling I'm working with the foils I'm working together with subfoil from Italy which is really cool
[00:27:42] because it's a close by factory producing really quality foils carbon foils in Europe and we have
[00:27:51] the chance to also locally here produce prototypes within one week we can do a new front wing
[00:27:56] if we need it and we're doing also like we're prototyping a lot which is really nice
[00:28:02] and in windsurf foiling I do need a longer fuse lash compared to winging which obviously needs to
[00:28:07] like the pivot stability needs to needs to be bit better because of the sail pushing down
[00:28:14] as we have like these three pressure points pointing down so windsurf foiling my favorite gear at
[00:28:19] the moment it's the same foil like in winging the medusa brawl and it's quite a big foil it's
[00:28:27] a mid-aspect high-aspect foil 850 so it has 860 span 870 span this foil is my one to go for
[00:28:36] for winter foiling and for wing foiling the only difference is that I use a 65 fuse lash for
[00:28:43] winging so a very short fuse lash and then the longer 90 cm fuse lash for winter foiling
[00:28:48] and then the mast length if we if we keep stick to the foil the mast length I'm at 83 at the moment
[00:28:55] which is like a magic number for me it's easy to fly through the chop it doesn't create too much
[00:29:01] leverage in in the rotations too much T forces pushing me around but definitely I mean for
[00:29:08] freeriding you probably could be on a longer mast and for surfing like the direct field you
[00:29:13] might be on a shorter mast but 85 83 that's my magic number at the moment and then ws which gives
[00:29:22] a lot of room to play it forward and backwards with the foil position because if you're I often see
[00:29:29] people struggling with the foil set up and what I really what's really frustrating is if someone
[00:29:34] stands on this board and he's really like putting all the pressure on the back of his board
[00:29:38] and he's barely flying then I mean I can see that he's struggling so the way I ride my setup is
[00:29:46] um always like the foil or the front wing quite far forward so there's a lot of a lot of
[00:29:54] leverage from the foil in the front so a lot of pressure on the front foot and often I'm also not
[00:30:01] using the back foot in my strap okay because I could the way the way my setup is set if I'm in my
[00:30:08] back strap and totally overloaded on the foil to generate extra pop or early lift while
[00:30:15] while getting going while pumping up on the foil but mainly I'm riding just in my front strap
[00:30:22] the back foot quite far forward with a lot of front foot pressure on the on the on the on the
[00:30:27] foil so the feel is that my board wants to go up okay that gives me that extra at extra low it
[00:30:35] and then like the latest foil they also pull down at higher speed so that you need to step in the back
[00:30:41] and like keep it up no but we could talk for hours about setup again we guys realize it yes
[00:30:49] but I was what's what if I actually if I share one more like my board is 57 liter which is small
[00:30:56] kind of and it's useless to have a too small board because you just struggle get going again and
[00:31:02] you in the end you just limit yourself and you're just floating on that board and once in the air
[00:31:08] you not try anything anymore so if you're learning something it's always better to have it helps
[00:31:14] just to have more volume and it gives you more attempts the same with the foil good to know so
[00:31:19] that's why I have a board which is kind of floats and gets gets me going quite easy and still
[00:31:26] is compact enough to go overhead and spin quadriple rotations quintuple I think you're gonna get a
[00:31:34] quintuple this year at five yeah and then on the wing side I prefer riding a smaller wing because
[00:31:44] the smaller wing gets me going easier in terms of my active pumping technique just a big awake
[00:31:51] just creates more drag and has more more of it just needs more work so I'm at I prefer being on
[00:32:01] a four on the power once in a year and powered up but being on the power done a four than being
[00:32:07] on a six meter and trying to get going and having this hard time to get going well my friend thanks
[00:32:14] for thanks for answering all these questions for us and hey everybody thanks for submitting them
[00:32:20] we'll look you forward to ride with you guys oh yeah all right we'll see you next time everybody