[00:00:00] Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. Today's episode is with Erwin Joffroy. He is the creator of the Water Sports Zone.
[00:00:07] He joins us from his home in France to talk early days of windsurfing, how we found wing foiling, why he started his YouTube channel and more.
[00:00:16] So I hope you enjoy this episode. He's an amazing guy that's doing a ton for our community. So, yep, I hope you enjoy it.
[00:00:23] Now, if you haven't had the opportunity to listen to last week's episode is with the legend himself, Gary Sisker from Ride Engine.
[00:00:31] Ride Engine actually has a pretty cool origin story. So he introduces it to that.
[00:00:36] He also introduces to the brand talks about his personal journey of finding wind and also what goes into making good accessories.
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[00:01:49] Welcome to the WingLife Podcast, where we talk about wing foiling and the lifestyles of those who enjoy this great sport.
[00:01:57] Alright everyone, thanks for joining me on the show today. I'm super stoked to be chatting with you.
[00:02:03] Hey, thanks for inviting me.
[00:02:06] Yes, so a little bit of backstory. I was talking to my friend Francisco Goya and Maui a little while ago
[00:02:13] and he mentioned that you were doing some awesome stuff on YouTube and I should check it out.
[00:02:18] So then we thought, hey, if we check it out on YouTube, we might as well invite you on and have a conversation and see where it all came from.
[00:02:25] Yes, thanks Francisco for giving us the opportunity to imitate. He's such a great person.
[00:02:37] I'm feeling grateful to have met him like long time ago but still in touch with him and be inspired by him very often.
[00:02:48] As soon as you talk, I think there is something to learn and thanks Francisco.
[00:02:57] Yeah, he's one of the godfathers I guess of windsurfing and it's really cool to see how inclusive he thinks
[00:03:06] and then how he tries to help other people in the water sports and tries to find a place for everybody who has a passion.
[00:03:13] So I do thank him for that because not everybody has that as a part of their mission, I guess and he does so that's pretty special.
[00:03:22] But talking about you, when did you even think you would start on YouTube? Not everybody decides to do that.
[00:03:33] So when did you think, okay, I love wind, I love water but let's do something about it?
[00:03:39] Back in the day, that's how I met Francisco. I was managing some magazines in France.
[00:03:48] Basically the main magazines for water sports in France was Wind Magazine for windsurfing,
[00:03:57] Kate Border magazine for kiting, we had also S.U.P. magazine, we created another one, Windsurf magazine
[00:04:07] and it was basically Printing magazine. We created the website as well.
[00:04:16] But for the business, the Print magazine was like a business model quite established but going down slowly but slowly.
[00:04:28] And the website, we are not actually working.
[00:04:36] I mean they're used to the Xerov Nodians still but not like something you can make models with.
[00:04:45] So I was thinking how we could switch to the digital media.
[00:04:54] And from my analysis, I was like okay YouTube is the perfect way to go because it's more like long time video information.
[00:05:08] You can take time and just explain things. It's not like just emotion on Instagram or TikTok.
[00:05:17] You can go fast and get some emotion to the people in two seconds and then see if people stay or not.
[00:05:26] And then they are going works or not. But YouTube is a bit different.
[00:05:30] So in my position as an editor, I was like I want to do that. I want to go on YouTube.
[00:05:37] And I was the owner of the company just managing a small part of the company or a small part.
[00:05:46] Already three or four magazines.
[00:05:49] And the owner didn't actually want to invest money and go into this project.
[00:05:59] So we were in, I think it was 2020 just after the COVID.
[00:06:06] I was thinking a lot about that during the COVID period.
[00:06:10] And at the end of the 2020, I released my first video and I invested my own money to buy a camera.
[00:06:21] My own time to edit the video and put myself in front of the camera, which I was not like.
[00:06:30] It was not like if I was not profitable with it.
[00:06:33] I mean, I'm easy to speak in front of a camera, no problem.
[00:06:37] But it was more like I was feeling a bit strange because I was used to put some riders in front of the camera
[00:06:49] and I felt that it would be more complicated for me to do that with a rider because it was my project.
[00:07:00] So I should have explained them exactly what to do, how to speak, how to explain.
[00:07:08] And it would have cost me so much more time that I decided to do it myself.
[00:07:14] And at this moment, I didn't realize that it could grow this fast.
[00:07:20] You know what I mean?
[00:07:22] And then I decided like I think one year after starting, I decided to quit the company with a print media
[00:07:40] and just work on my YouTube channel and my consulting company.
[00:07:48] Okay, so what's your consulting company?
[00:07:51] Well it's just a small agency for communication, marketing stuff.
[00:07:58] But most of my time I spend it like for my YouTube channel producing content
[00:08:04] and filming, testing.
[00:08:10] Oh that's cool!
[00:08:12] Having fun a lot as well.
[00:08:14] Yeah I think that's important in this industry for sure.
[00:08:19] To take some time to have some little fun, a little bit of riding time for you too right?
[00:08:24] Yeah, it's my life.
[00:08:26] I mean, I wouldn't do that if I wasn't riding almost every day because it's what I live for.
[00:08:34] So of course I have my family, I have people around me
[00:08:42] whether I'm living for riding for this feeling.
[00:08:48] You know at the end of the day when you're spent hours on the water
[00:08:53] you are like tired but this feeling is unmatchable.
[00:08:58] Yeah, yeah I know I think all of us understand that one for sure.
[00:09:04] For those meeting you everyone for the first time out in other parts of the world
[00:09:10] when did you come across contact with wind for the first time?
[00:09:14] Like where did you grow up and a little bit more about you?
[00:09:18] I grew up in La Torche.
[00:09:21] Maybe most of the people who have a windsurf background know La Torche.
[00:09:26] It's a famous spot in the Britaille, so northwest France.
[00:09:32] And this spot used to host some Pidubariway World Cup back in the day.
[00:09:38] Last one was in 2016 but before in the 80s there was like
[00:09:46] good memories for most of the riders in this period like
[00:09:53] beyond in Karmberg or Binesh.
[00:09:56] There was a set coming here.
[00:09:58] And I started windsurfing when I was a teenager
[00:10:05] and then going like what would say professional into windsurfing.
[00:10:15] Still in Britaille, France and then moved to South France
[00:10:19] so now I'm living in Toulon, which is next to the most famous spot is La Manard.
[00:10:26] Maybe some of you can know where it is.
[00:10:32] And yeah I moved to South France when I started to work for Wind Magazine.
[00:10:37] So it was in 2006.
[00:10:41] And now I'm in Toulon for this time.
[00:10:48] And then how did you find that windsport for the first time?
[00:10:54] What did you start with? Obviously you started windsurfing
[00:10:56] but when did you get into wing foiling for the first time?
[00:11:00] Wing foiling, it was in 2019.
[00:11:07] It's at the very beginning of the sport.
[00:11:12] My first session I think was in Taifa, Bologna during a meeting with the Borden-Mor crew.
[00:11:22] Oh okay and I think it was in June 2019.
[00:11:30] And Borden-Mor just released the first production wings and foils for winging.
[00:11:44] So we had to try.
[00:11:47] Actually for me I was already foiling for a while in windsurfing, in kiteboarding
[00:11:56] and it was like I would say I didn't really appreciate it as much as I appreciate it now
[00:12:09] because it was easy and slow.
[00:12:15] I mean kite foiling is very difficult for beginners to start foiling.
[00:12:23] Maybe the worst idea is to do it with a kite because it's very technical.
[00:12:30] So very challenging and as soon as you fly you go very fast.
[00:12:38] And then when I tried the wing foiling I was like okay it's fun but not the revolution.
[00:12:50] I don't think that's going anywhere.
[00:12:53] No no no, I was thinking there was a potential because I realized that when I started kite foiling
[00:13:01] which was for foiling the most exciting way of foiling at the moment
[00:13:10] I realized that it was very difficult.
[00:13:13] People like coming in the summer as a shoreline are almost impossible to work at foiling for example.
[00:13:24] Wind foiling is a bit more easy but carrying the gear and everything is a bit complicated.
[00:13:31] So from the early days I understood the potential.
[00:13:40] I felt it was easy way to go foiling so for me it was like maybe we see.
[00:13:52] And then I started appreciating it like three or four months later with smaller gear faster foils.
[00:14:03] When my first session I was like so so you know.
[00:14:08] I think most of our first sessions were well I guess I started windsurf foiling
[00:14:14] and then that I found was an easy way into it because I was a windsurfer
[00:14:18] so all I had to do was lean back with my sail and lean forward my sail and my board would go up.
[00:14:24] So that I found was pretty straightforward after windsurfing for a long time
[00:14:29] and the transition to wing foiling was fairly easy but yeah the foils were a bit slower.
[00:14:35] I started on an F1 they had an awesome first generation wing so that was pretty cool.
[00:14:41] But did you think that it would explode this quickly as it has?
[00:14:49] Because foiling had been around for a long time right like nobody had really done it
[00:14:54] boom all of a sudden it's kind of becoming mainstream but foiling had been around for years.
[00:15:00] Yeah but I was not surprised that it exploded this fast because I think wing foiling
[00:15:12] has been the first water sports to emerge to exist
[00:15:22] since social media.
[00:15:25] Then social media and I'm a good example for that but you can share your experience,
[00:15:31] your knowledge and make it easier for other people very fast
[00:15:38] and even to know that this sport exists and before at the beginning of kite surfing for example
[00:15:48] from the early days in maybe South France or maybe Hawaii or maybe Brittany we still don't really know
[00:15:59] to let the people be aware of this existing it took years.
[00:16:08] But for wing foiling then Kailini doing I don't know three gybe in Maui
[00:16:16] and then the world was aware of that so the world was wanting to try
[00:16:25] and then we had another problem it was the capacity of the industry to deliver the gear available
[00:16:36] to the people but the request of gear and the need for people to try was very strong.
[00:16:44] So I think the key part of the explosion of wing foiling is social media.
[00:16:52] And hence what you're helping with but now like I've talked to a lot of brands
[00:16:59] and they're saying that the market has pretty much peaked.
[00:17:05] They have a lot of product sitting in warehouses like we can talk about this,
[00:17:10] we can edit it out later if you're not comfortable.
[00:17:12] But like I've talked to a bunch of brands and it's just sitting there
[00:17:16] so what they're trying to do now is expand beyond the current reach of current clientele
[00:17:21] because there's a lot of there's a flooding of new companies, new gear and they can't sell it.
[00:17:28] So coming from your side of things where do you see that kind of evolving
[00:17:33] and have you seen that as much on your side?
[00:17:37] Yeah of course I have seen that.
[00:17:40] To be honest I thought it would happen earlier because with the COVID,
[00:17:47] all the brands had some trouble with the shipment, producing the gear and stuff
[00:17:59] and there was a lot of requests from the market
[00:18:02] and I think every single people were looking for the gear from calling every shops everywhere
[00:18:14] and in fact it created a demand that was like a bubble you know?
[00:18:22] Because it's difficult for me to explain this very accurately in English
[00:18:31] but if I call 3, 4, 5 shops because they don't reply on my request
[00:18:42] then all those shops report to the brand we have a lot of requests
[00:18:46] but there's only the same people you know?
[00:18:49] So it was like a bit of a bubble and then it kind of worked because the sport was actually exploding
[00:19:03] so it was working but then at some points so many brands overproduced
[00:19:09] and then so many new brands came to wing foiling because maybe the other activity
[00:19:18] like stand up paddling or going down or maybe even wind searching or caking
[00:19:25] they were looking at the wing foiling as a new Liddo Ado
[00:19:30] then too many actual brands overproducing, too many brands
[00:19:38] and then we are the situation we are now which is not very good for the industry
[00:19:51] but somehow it's kind of good for the people because then there are a lot of discount
[00:20:05] Okay, yeah
[00:20:07] Discount for the gear so the gear is more affordable
[00:20:10] and on short term it's quite good on long term
[00:20:16] it means that the brands would have less margin to develop new gear
[00:20:24] to support the sport as a sport I mean the competition, riders
[00:20:32] producing content and stuff like this
[00:20:38] but I think it will make the, with time will make the industry more L.C.
[00:20:49] because somehow some, I think it's, I don't wish it for anyone
[00:20:58] but some brands will
[00:21:05] Well they'll go out of business somewhere
[00:21:08] Yeah, it's a good business or whatever you know
[00:21:12] Yeah, but that is a good way and good idea
[00:21:15] and we could probably talk about your contribution into helping new people find the sport
[00:21:22] because we had a lot of wind surfers carry over, a lot of kites carry over
[00:21:28] but early on I was talking to Wyatt Miller and we were like how do we get and expand our reach
[00:21:35] to have more people wingfoil or even wing on a sup
[00:21:40] and I think what you're doing and the time you're taking to produce like high quality, very good videos
[00:21:47] that explain all the steps kind of like what Damien Leroy and Gwenn are doing in the US
[00:21:53] in the English format you're doing it for the French population which is huge
[00:21:59] like I think that will help spread because it's not everybody follows a pro athlete
[00:22:06] not everybody knows a brand
[00:22:08] like if you step outside of our world somebody might not even know are the best pro
[00:22:16] but they might catch your video on YouTube and they might say oh this is super fun
[00:22:21] like maybe I could do this
[00:22:23] so I think the work you're doing is very important
[00:22:26] and we have all this gear sitting there to be sold
[00:22:30] but something like yourself might be able to help get it out there right
[00:22:35] Thanks for your good work my world
[00:22:40] You're welcome
[00:22:42] From my point of view
[00:22:46] I'm on the second wave
[00:22:50] I mean the first wave is thanks to social media helps a lot
[00:23:00] but I think brands, riders like top riders like they produce amazing content
[00:23:09] and this is what touches other people first
[00:23:14] because calling on Instagram they don't even know who is Kylini
[00:23:18] they don't even know who is Titois
[00:23:20] but their viral content might touch them
[00:23:24] and oh yeah I want to do this sport
[00:23:29] you know what I mean
[00:23:30] and then they will tap on YouTube
[00:23:33] or whatever they have remembers from what they've seen on social media today
[00:23:40] but could also be mainstream media like TV or newspaper
[00:23:45] whenever they just want to do something about our sports
[00:23:49] which is not everyday unfortunately
[00:23:51] but then they search on YouTube
[00:23:56] and then they can find people like me or Damien and Gwen
[00:24:04] and then they will get some information to get started and improve their skills
[00:24:14] and sometimes they feel like more
[00:24:22] they have more connection with someone like Gwen or me or Damien
[00:24:29] or other guys giving some tips
[00:24:34] then compared to top riders like way better than us
[00:24:40] where they are just guys doing some
[00:24:45] just amazing skills
[00:24:50] but sometimes they don't even remember their name
[00:24:53] because it's outside the world
[00:24:56] and my role is more like to connect this all together I know
[00:25:02] see what you're saying, yeah that's a really valid point actually
[00:25:05] so you got your people out in the front
[00:25:08] and then you'll have the Ness network
[00:25:11] and the next wave of people helping connect the public to that
[00:25:14] and then giving much deeper understanding
[00:25:17] breaking it down to the basics
[00:25:19] because I don't even know if I'll ever land a backflip
[00:25:22] and my riding skills are like they're okay
[00:25:24] but then you have the people who are just trying to get up on the board
[00:25:28] like how did you find
[00:25:31] here let's back that up
[00:25:33] what was your first video like that you did
[00:25:36] was it easy, was it stressful, was it weird being in front
[00:25:39] like we had talked a little bit before
[00:25:41] you're now the main person that people are looking to right
[00:25:44] on your channel
[00:25:46] yeah on my channel yes
[00:25:49] my first video
[00:25:52] I think it's maybe the most successful yet
[00:25:58] I'm not sure maybe it's something like
[00:26:02] the third or fifth which is the most successful
[00:26:06] but the first video were very successful and still
[00:26:10] because it's where they were
[00:26:14] on very basic skills
[00:26:17] that's where the base of the pyramid
[00:26:20] that's the step that everyone needs to
[00:26:24] go through
[00:26:26] so that's a more popular video
[00:26:31] this means something like
[00:26:34] I think 250.000 views
[00:26:40] I think in the moment or maybe a bit more I don't know
[00:26:43] and me I wasn't like twice that much
[00:26:50] because I didn't
[00:26:52] it was impossible for me to imagine
[00:26:56] that it could reach so many people
[00:26:58] yeah it was fair enough
[00:27:00] and even you're just speaking to a camera
[00:27:04] I say you are alone with the camera almost
[00:27:06] so I don't know it was not like stressful
[00:27:09] but when I
[00:27:12] now I avoid to look at this video
[00:27:16] because I'm a bit like
[00:27:19] I could have done maybe more effort
[00:27:24] I could have given more of myself to make it more clean
[00:27:28] yeah
[00:27:31] but that's the way it is
[00:27:33] no regrets no problem
[00:27:35] no no regrets no problem
[00:27:37] and keep moving forward
[00:27:39] what was your favorite
[00:27:41] where are you recording all your videos
[00:27:44] most of my videos
[00:27:46] at the beginning I was recording outside
[00:27:49] at the beach
[00:27:51] most of the time
[00:27:53] and then I
[00:27:56] at the beach it's a bit like
[00:27:59] you have some constraints
[00:28:01] because of the sound, because of the wind
[00:28:04] because of many things
[00:28:07] so I started to do it more simple
[00:28:09] then in my garden
[00:28:12] okay
[00:28:14] and now to get it more simple
[00:28:18] I do it most of the time
[00:28:21] sometimes in my bedroom
[00:28:24] which is my garage
[00:28:27] and sometimes in the living room
[00:28:30] as well in one of my accommodation
[00:28:33] and yeah
[00:28:36] to get the sound clean
[00:28:39] to have the light clean
[00:28:42] and to be quite
[00:28:45] no one coming just like
[00:28:48] you know it's like yeah
[00:28:51] to most of the...
[00:28:52] but more so your studio
[00:28:54] yeah it's almost like a studio
[00:28:56] yeah oh that's cool
[00:28:58] now and you've obviously filmed stuff on location
[00:29:02] like where have you gotten to travel
[00:29:05] were you traveling a lot with the magazine before
[00:29:08] yeah depending on the year
[00:29:12] I was traveling quite a lot
[00:29:15] I mean for five times a year
[00:29:18] which is a lot for someone and not that much for someone else
[00:29:22] but I'm very grateful that I have visited
[00:29:26] many good places for water sports
[00:29:29] like Mawi
[00:29:32] I've seen more than 10 times
[00:29:34] like South Africa
[00:29:37] like Caribbean
[00:29:40] Japan
[00:29:43] for
[00:29:46] yes three times
[00:29:52] many places
[00:29:53] many times Tarifa of course
[00:29:55] many times Gincho
[00:29:57] many times
[00:29:59] yeah that's awesome
[00:30:01] so no no I'm very grateful
[00:30:04] for thanks God for the live
[00:30:07] I am in
[00:30:11] you were given
[00:30:13] do you have little ones and stuff in France
[00:30:16] yeah my family is everyone is in France
[00:30:19] and in France we are very fortunate as well
[00:30:22] because on the Atlantic side
[00:30:25] especially Brittany where I was born
[00:30:27] we have some very good waves
[00:30:30] quite good wind with low pressure as well
[00:30:32] so for wave ceiling and windsurfing is very good
[00:30:36] windfoiling is good as well
[00:30:38] but in South France
[00:30:40] where I'm living it's just perfect
[00:30:42] I think for my photo view
[00:30:44] I think the best place in Europe
[00:30:47] for riding all year long
[00:30:50] things foiling
[00:30:52] because the wind is
[00:30:54] well we have the mist trial wind
[00:30:57] mist trial which I think is quite famous as a wind
[00:31:01] blowing consistently
[00:31:05] and we have sunny weather
[00:31:09] most of the time
[00:31:11] so it's not very cold in the winter
[00:31:13] so maybe today
[00:31:15] today we are in February today
[00:31:17] it was like maybe 15 degrees
[00:31:19] maybe more maybe 20 degrees
[00:31:21] so it's quite good
[00:31:23] and we don't have the waves
[00:31:26] like breaking waves
[00:31:28] like we can have in the Atlantic
[00:31:31] but with a foil
[00:31:33] it's not like if we don't care about breaking waves
[00:31:36] but we can use chopps
[00:31:38] we can use a swan to carry on it
[00:31:42] and as soon as it's windy
[00:31:44] and here it's kind of a choppy wavy
[00:31:48] and then with a foil it's big fun
[00:31:51] so South France around Toulon
[00:31:54] is a very good place for our sports
[00:31:59] oh nice it's not a bad place to keep your home base then
[00:32:03] yeah
[00:32:05] oh that's cool
[00:32:07] so when jumping into instruction
[00:32:09] have you done a lot of that stuff in the past
[00:32:12] or was like instructing via video
[00:32:14] kind of brand new for you?
[00:32:16] I have my instructor license for a while
[00:32:20] but I kind of never use it
[00:32:25] as an instructor
[00:32:27] but as a head editor of magazines
[00:32:31] we published every issue in the year
[00:32:39] and dedicated issue every year about how to use
[00:32:44] so it was like
[00:32:48] I mean doing it for magazines
[00:32:52] or for videos is more or less the same
[00:32:57] in the way you think about it
[00:33:00] I mean you need to explain to
[00:33:05] to build your talk
[00:33:14] it's the same way
[00:33:16] I mean just another media
[00:33:18] another way to communicate with people
[00:33:22] but the basis is the same
[00:33:24] so for me switch from magazine to video
[00:33:29] just for explaining stuff
[00:33:31] no problem
[00:33:33] it was no problem at all
[00:33:34] okay so you were the one that was in charge of writing those how-to's then
[00:33:37] no no
[00:33:39] I was lowering some people for that
[00:33:42] but that's something I was used to
[00:33:45] because when you are editor of magazines
[00:33:48] you read everything
[00:33:50] you are maybe the only people reading all the articles in the magazine
[00:33:55] yep
[00:33:57] and since I had my lessons as an instructor
[00:34:03] and I was like
[00:34:05] so it was very strange for me
[00:34:10] if I do something I was familiar with
[00:34:12] so it was easy
[00:34:14] okay no that's nice yeah
[00:34:16] because I find I was doing instruction for a few years
[00:34:19] before I got busier with other projects
[00:34:21] but so I created a little bit of a lesson plan
[00:34:24] I had to break it down in my head
[00:34:25] because everybody learns differently
[00:34:27] and I've talked to a few instructors so far
[00:34:29] and everybody has their own little way
[00:34:31] of empowering their students
[00:34:33] and so I was just curious to see if that kind of came to be naturally
[00:34:37] but yeah reading all the how-to's
[00:34:39] and whatnot and getting years of experience
[00:34:41] and that would have definitely made that transition a lot easier
[00:34:44] yeah and then somebody way of thinking as well
[00:34:47] someone like is very structured
[00:34:51] and Cartesian would say maybe
[00:34:55] and I think it works quite good with the YouTube
[00:35:00] in one side and the other side with the age of the people watching me
[00:35:07] because wing folding is not yet a sport for
[00:35:13] it is a sport for young people but it's the reality
[00:35:18] that most of the people are more like 40
[00:35:21] maybe sometimes 50 years old
[00:35:24] and that kind of people
[00:35:27] they like to be teach
[00:35:31] like something like in the university you know
[00:35:38] very structured
[00:35:40] yeah that's my style maybe for younger people
[00:35:44] for a teenager
[00:35:46] then it would be more like you know
[00:35:49] and yeah
[00:35:53] I found that actually
[00:35:54] I was giving lessons to people
[00:35:56] and how I would describe how a wing would fly
[00:35:59] is I would say you have a vertical and a horizontal axis
[00:36:02] your horizontal axis will dictate the movement
[00:36:05] and then your power is built on the vertical
[00:36:07] and you can go a minus 3 on the horizontal
[00:36:10] and you can go pull down a bit
[00:36:12] and you'll get power at that degree
[00:36:14] and they said oh that makes
[00:36:16] but they were in 40 plus
[00:36:18] and said that makes so much sense to me
[00:36:20] because you break it down in that very
[00:36:22] to understand instead of just saying moving your arms
[00:36:24] or do this or do that right
[00:36:26] like so I guess that is something that I've come across as well
[00:36:28] it makes sense that way
[00:36:30] you got to break it down very very simply
[00:36:32] how communicative is your audience with you
[00:36:36] are they asking for stuff
[00:36:38] are they like bringing that into their own writing
[00:36:43] and then commenting on how much it helped them
[00:36:45] like what did you find the collaboration aspect has been like
[00:36:48] it's been something that I was working for
[00:36:52] since the early days on YouTube
[00:36:54] because since I was putting me in front of the camera
[00:36:58] I was like stepping down from the ivory tour
[00:37:03] that I was in the magazines
[00:37:05] because the magazine you don't see your face
[00:37:07] just write
[00:37:08] people can read you but cannot reply to you
[00:37:11] and from the first video
[00:37:15] I think I was asking for people to get me some feedback
[00:37:19] to ask me a question
[00:37:23] to request me some next topics for videos
[00:37:27] and I was trying to reply to everyone
[00:37:30] like for the last three years with my YouTube channel
[00:37:35] I think I have replied to pretty much every comment
[00:37:41] or maybe 90% plus other comments
[00:37:48] because for me it's important
[00:37:52] I have a lot of value to this exchange
[00:37:59] with the people
[00:38:01] I don't want to be the guy like okay
[00:38:03] I'm structured and I want to give tips to the people
[00:38:08] like in the university
[00:38:10] but I don't want to be the untouchable people
[00:38:13] so I'm very happy to reply to one's first question
[00:38:18] most of the questions come on my Instagram as well
[00:38:23] like DM
[00:38:25] because people are shy and don't want to go public on YouTube
[00:38:29] so I prefer to go DM on Instagram
[00:38:33] so I try to reply to everyone as well
[00:38:35] and of course lots of people come to me on the beach
[00:38:41] or sometimes at the airport or sometimes in the supermarket
[00:38:45] and it's always good because it's always passionate people
[00:38:52] and I'm very happy to experience that
[00:38:55] to cross these eyes full of passion
[00:39:01] and we share that passion
[00:39:03] and it's always very strong
[00:39:07] Oh that's cool, a little mini celebrity then over there
[00:39:10] No, I'm not a celebrity
[00:39:13] You know when you live where are you?
[00:39:15] I'm just kidding, everybody knows when sports people
[00:39:18] No, it's not everybody
[00:39:21] There are lots of people
[00:39:25] who are at the beach
[00:39:28] can imagine
[00:39:30] sometimes there are more than hundreds of people
[00:39:33] in the meantime
[00:39:35] so if two or three people
[00:39:38] four people come to you
[00:39:40] and you are getting your gear ready
[00:39:42] it's already 4%
[00:39:45] but it's for people, you have a talk with them
[00:39:48] and it's very nice
[00:39:52] and sometimes those people
[00:39:55] they also go to the supermarket
[00:39:57] and me as well so sometimes we meet
[00:40:00] and it's good, no problem
[00:40:02] but if I go to the middle of France
[00:40:05] or the middle of Canada
[00:40:08] I'm sure the one we can
[00:40:10] I'll wave, I'll say hi
[00:40:12] Wow, that's him
[00:40:16] No, that's cool though
[00:40:19] What was your favorite destination
[00:40:23] for example that you did either a video
[00:40:26] for like a review
[00:40:29] or one of your own kind of videos
[00:40:32] is there a top place that would stand out in the world
[00:40:35] that you felt was the most fun so far?
[00:40:38] I would say
[00:40:41] I would say Hawaii, Maui
[00:40:44] I would say Maui
[00:40:46] because Maui
[00:40:49] is so special because
[00:40:52] you have a lot of inspiring people
[00:40:55] like Francisco, we talked before
[00:40:58] but as well guys like
[00:41:01] Kylie and me
[00:41:04] all the
[00:41:07] people like Dave Calama
[00:41:10] for example, it's not a good example
[00:41:12] because I never met him
[00:41:15] but there is something happening in Maui
[00:41:19] very creative stuff about water sports
[00:41:22] that I like a lot
[00:41:25] and over maybe 10 kilometers of coastline
[00:41:30] the same day you can do everything
[00:41:33] you can do kiteboarding, wind surfing
[00:41:35] you can do wing foiling, you can do
[00:41:37] SUP foiling, downwinding
[00:41:40] and everything is
[00:41:43] surfing of course from the sunrise to sunset
[00:41:46] always something to do
[00:41:49] to have fun, to meet great people
[00:41:52] to be inspired by great people
[00:41:55] so the only difficult thing is that it's very expensive
[00:41:58] but yeah
[00:42:01] you have shippers
[00:42:04] and everywhere else in the world
[00:42:06] there are people inspiring me
[00:42:09] amazing shippers, amazing riders
[00:42:13] but they are more like everywhere
[00:42:16] it's not as the same concentration as in Maui
[00:42:20] Oh that's a good point
[00:42:22] How do you find the level of
[00:42:25] let's say if you're somebody listening to this show
[00:42:27] or watching your channel
[00:42:29] and they're brand new to wing foiling
[00:42:31] it's their first two years for example
[00:42:34] Do you think Maui would be a good place for them to learn?
[00:42:37] What did you find the level required to ride there?
[00:42:41] I don't kind of...
[00:42:46] I'm not like recommending Maui
[00:42:49] for just riding as a...
[00:42:53] I mean, over age people
[00:42:55] I would recommend Maui to experience
[00:42:58] the culture of riding
[00:43:01] to feel the power of the Pacific
[00:43:05] sometimes it's tough
[00:43:07] like really tough
[00:43:09] yes, it takes swells like that
[00:43:12] to watch some of the best riders in the world
[00:43:18] doing what they do the best
[00:43:20] but for having holidays
[00:43:23] like to improve your own skills
[00:43:26] riding
[00:43:27] then I think
[00:43:29] if you are not like
[00:43:32] already at a very good level
[00:43:34] then you might find Maui difficult
[00:43:37] or you will spend most of your time in the lagoon
[00:43:42] and maybe you can have
[00:43:44] kind of as good lagoon
[00:43:46] for more affordable price
[00:43:49] cheaper price
[00:43:51] I mean, closer to your home
[00:43:57] I mean depending on where you are living
[00:44:00] that's true
[00:44:01] you know, I was in France
[00:44:03] in France for example
[00:44:05] I would recommend people to
[00:44:07] they don't want to take a flight
[00:44:10] and to come to South France
[00:44:12] like where I'm living
[00:44:13] otherwise
[00:44:14] and go to Darla for example in Morocco
[00:44:18] and you have some lagoon with a very consistent wind
[00:44:21] very flat
[00:44:22] and then if you take
[00:44:25] if you spend a week there
[00:44:27] then you will improve your skills 100%
[00:44:32] because you have the perfect condition to work on your skills
[00:44:38] I mean
[00:44:39] yeah, that's true
[00:44:40] yeah, that's a good point actually
[00:44:42] and I think that's one thing to put out there
[00:44:44] is that there are places closer to home
[00:44:46] that would be maybe even better for learning
[00:44:50] like I just got back from a quick little week
[00:44:52] in La Ventana, Mexico
[00:44:53] and I'm flying back out on the 13th
[00:44:55] and I'm going to stay there
[00:44:56] maybe till April or May
[00:44:58] and it gets intermediate level
[00:45:02] when the wind climbs
[00:45:03] and if you have three, four days of like bigger swell
[00:45:06] and we had some days where
[00:45:08] I think I went out foiling
[00:45:09] and it was must have been 6'6' 7' swell
[00:45:12] like overhead
[00:45:14] but there are some days where it's really flat
[00:45:16] and no wonder there's a lot of schools there
[00:45:18] and it's very conducive to learning
[00:45:20] and there's other bays that you can do
[00:45:22] that are even flatter water
[00:45:24] but then there's spots everywhere in the world now
[00:45:27] and I think this is cool about this sport
[00:45:29] is it's opening this stuff up for people
[00:45:32] that's like we don't have to just go to one spot
[00:45:34] you can take up this sport
[00:45:35] and learn it at home
[00:45:36] or learn it somewhere else
[00:45:38] so that's kind of cool
[00:45:39] so I'll let you know how La Ventana goes
[00:45:41] for the next few months
[00:45:42] I think that's going to be fun
[00:45:43] just to get a bit more sun in the face
[00:45:45] and go winging every day after
[00:45:47] so that'll be kind of cool
[00:45:50] but did you end up going to
[00:45:52] were you able to go to AWSI this year
[00:45:55] because I know you did win an award
[00:46:00] for your channel right
[00:46:01] for like you're the third top, not like WSI
[00:46:03] but you're the third top content creator
[00:46:05] I guess in the world
[00:46:08] Yeah, I've heard about that
[00:46:11] It was in AWS, I don't think so
[00:46:14] No, it was
[00:46:15] Well, for another people
[00:46:17] another stuff
[00:46:18] Yeah
[00:46:19] Yes
[00:46:20] Well, I don't
[00:46:23] I mean thanks for voting
[00:46:27] for the people who voted for me
[00:46:29] but I don't give that much
[00:46:33] importance
[00:46:35] or focus on this kind of award
[00:46:37] for me the award is to have people
[00:46:43] learning from what I can share to them
[00:46:48] and just for me to share stuff
[00:46:50] and make people happy
[00:46:52] to make people more comfortable
[00:46:55] with all the sports
[00:46:58] and the culture and everything
[00:47:00] and the best reward I can get
[00:47:02] is a smile in the face of the people
[00:47:05] when I meet them
[00:47:09] and then the world of social media
[00:47:12] with voting and stuff like this
[00:47:16] sometimes there's just only 200 people voting
[00:47:18] so
[00:47:22] I mean, it's good
[00:47:23] and I congratulate the people winning
[00:47:25] yeah, it's no problem
[00:47:28] it's not the reason why I'm doing this
[00:47:31] I'm doing my YouTube channel
[00:47:33] I'm trying to get some this kind of reward
[00:47:36] I'm not sure if I'm clear with it
[00:47:39] Yeah, do you want to...
[00:47:40] Sorry, I was just looking at your
[00:47:42] Instagram channel for your tutorials
[00:47:44] because that's where I wanted to go next
[00:47:46] but I see what you're saying
[00:47:48] and so far your channel is exclusively in French
[00:47:52] but we were just talking with Frank
[00:47:54] and I guess this is an introduction
[00:47:56] because a lot of our audience
[00:47:58] is all over the world
[00:48:00] like we got maybe 60, 70 countries
[00:48:02] that are listening in
[00:48:04] we got Canada, the US, Australia, UK
[00:48:08] a lot of those countries are some of our top listeners
[00:48:11] and thank you very much for everybody
[00:48:13] for tuning in and listening to us
[00:48:15] ramble on and talk about what we love
[00:48:17] but
[00:48:19] we were just talking about
[00:48:21] whether or not if you're ever going to expand
[00:48:23] a little bit into the English market
[00:48:25] or do you find that you're busy enough helping
[00:48:28] my native tongue is French
[00:48:30] there's a lot of French people
[00:48:32] and I find a lot of content normally
[00:48:34] is not directly directed towards them
[00:48:36] so it is nice to have
[00:48:38] a high caliber content
[00:48:40] for people of that mother tongue
[00:48:43] Is that kind of what you found so far or?
[00:48:45] Yes, as you can see with me already
[00:48:49] I'm not a native speaker in English
[00:48:51] and I think I'm not sure
[00:48:53] if I'm sure I'm not speaking
[00:48:56] good enough English
[00:48:58] to entertain people native
[00:49:01] or speaking better than me
[00:49:04] so my choice from the beginning
[00:49:07] was to stick in to French
[00:49:10] because in France
[00:49:13] there are of course people
[00:49:16] speaking and understanding well English
[00:49:19] but that's maybe not the most of the people
[00:49:23] they prefer to watch content
[00:49:27] in French
[00:49:29] so that was my strategy
[00:49:31] and since the market was
[00:49:33] wing-flying
[00:49:35] it was very dynamic in France
[00:49:37] from the early days
[00:49:39] and maybe it was kind of a leader country
[00:49:42] so it was making sense as well
[00:49:46] and now of course
[00:49:49] I have already a good community
[00:49:54] in France
[00:49:56] but I also feel like
[00:49:58] I could expand more internationally
[00:50:02] speaking English
[00:50:04] but I still have the same limitation
[00:50:07] with my ability to speak in English
[00:50:11] like people would wish
[00:50:15] I would talk
[00:50:17] and but I'm thinking about how I could
[00:50:21] go wider
[00:50:23] and just thinking about it
[00:50:26] Yeah, it's a good thought
[00:50:29] but in that sense
[00:50:33] at least your niche market
[00:50:35] is still pretty big
[00:50:37] like you still have a lot of French-speaking people
[00:50:39] and it is nice to have content
[00:50:41] of that caliber for them
[00:50:43] because everybody else is in English
[00:50:45] and it's not suited to them
[00:50:47] so I think it's really nice to have that
[00:50:49] and I think it's really important
[00:50:51] and because you can go around
[00:50:54] like I saw your interview with Keith in French
[00:50:56] which is great
[00:50:57] like how many times are you going to be able to have a French interview
[00:50:59] with one of the best board shapers, right?
[00:51:01] Like that's really cool
[00:51:03] and I think that that should be
[00:51:05] and that's the thing
[00:51:07] with even this podcast only being in English
[00:51:09] we could do some in French
[00:51:11] and I wish there was a way
[00:51:14] to expand into other languages
[00:51:16] because we had like even some people
[00:51:18] in small African countries tune in
[00:51:21] where it would be nice to be able to offer it
[00:51:23] in another language
[00:51:25] but maybe AI is going to help
[00:51:27] and they could just dub our voices
[00:51:29] and it'll be Chinese or Mandarin or whatever, right?
[00:51:33] Like I think that stuff is coming
[00:51:36] but yeah
[00:51:38] how do you like doing reviews
[00:51:42] and stuff on gear?
[00:51:44] Is that something that you enjoy doing for brands
[00:51:46] like testing it out, giving feedback
[00:51:49] like how did you find that journey
[00:51:51] into that part of the corporate part of this has been?
[00:51:54] That's what I have been doing for forever
[00:52:00] because I was not like
[00:52:05] doing myself the outtools in the magazine
[00:52:10] but I was very involved into the testing of the gear
[00:52:14] so for forever
[00:52:16] so yeah that's my DNA I would say
[00:52:20] and so I like to test the gear a lot
[00:52:23] and especially when it's moving a lot
[00:52:27] when the gear is not moving that much
[00:52:30] then sometimes it could get more
[00:52:33] never boring but less interesting I would say
[00:52:37] because then you have less things to explain
[00:52:43] and less things to tell to the people
[00:52:47] but for the moment
[00:52:49] the gear and the sport is moving fast
[00:52:53] so it's very exciting
[00:52:55] and I'm taking a lot of pleasure
[00:52:58] a lot of fun doing this
[00:53:02] no
[00:53:05] it's not like
[00:53:08] it's still not like a job I mean it's like a passion
[00:53:12] and then when you are passionate you work more
[00:53:15] yeah you're doing your up at 2am editing stuff
[00:53:20] and trying to make your thing the next day
[00:53:23] where did you see obviously you've seen the progression of gear
[00:53:27] from where from your perspective
[00:53:31] has been the biggest changes
[00:53:35] obviously wings have gotten
[00:53:38] they've changed a lot foils have changed a lot
[00:53:41] what have you seen and what's been the most fun change for you
[00:53:44] what I've changed the most is I think definitely the foils
[00:53:50] and it opens the path for everything else
[00:53:54] because as soon as the limitation with speed
[00:54:00] was due to the foils
[00:54:02] and that's the reason why my very first day
[00:54:06] I think it was very good fun because it was like a 2000 front wing
[00:54:12] like going full speed at 12 knots
[00:54:18] then it was not working and then if you go just 12 knots
[00:54:22] then your wing push sideways
[00:54:27] then the board
[00:54:30] I mean there is no wind speed
[00:54:34] wind coming from the front of you so the board you don't care
[00:54:38] there is no area involved
[00:54:43] and as soon as you go faster
[00:54:46] then it opens new perspective for the development of the wings
[00:54:53] but as well for the with the boards
[00:54:56] and everything the role of the ball start
[00:55:01] it makes the ball roll
[00:55:04] and at the end of the day maybe
[00:55:11] so the foils was the biggest change
[00:55:14] but the thing that surprised me the most
[00:55:18] is the evasion of the board
[00:55:20] at the end
[00:55:22] because the boards
[00:55:25] at the beginning I thought it was like just a platform
[00:55:29] as you can step on it and then fly
[00:55:32] then as soon as you fly it doesn't count anymore
[00:55:35] and at the end of the day
[00:55:37] today the boards are making huge difference
[00:55:41] for the capacity, the ability
[00:55:45] for getting up on the foil
[00:55:50] in the light winds
[00:55:52] for the ability to recover after touch
[00:55:56] and the ability to roll fast
[00:55:59] in the air
[00:56:03] like the aerodynamics of the board
[00:56:10] plays quite a lot
[00:56:13] and then you have the angle with the foils
[00:56:17] many things that the board are very important
[00:56:20] the evasion of the board like more narrow and longer
[00:56:24] with the foil more forward
[00:56:26] was kind of
[00:56:28] I didn't imagine that to the other go
[00:56:33] where do you think it's all going
[00:56:35] what do you think after this phase
[00:56:38] like a lot of companies
[00:56:40] like I know KT is releasing some stuff
[00:56:42] and coming up
[00:56:44] they got some new versions of stuff
[00:56:46] what do you think is coming at the next phase
[00:56:50] I think we are going to
[00:56:53] to more specialized gear
[00:56:56] for in the sport was born like
[00:56:59] five years ago more or less
[00:57:02] and at the beginning we all get hooked into it
[00:57:07] because it was one foil, one board, one wing
[00:57:11] like the most simple you can have
[00:57:14] and the success of the early days
[00:57:19] was based on that I think
[00:57:22] simplicity
[00:57:24] and today
[00:57:29] we have like better understanding
[00:57:34] where the sport is going as a sport
[00:57:37] so where people have interest in
[00:57:40] so for example
[00:57:42] free fly
[00:57:44] like going surfing on the foil
[00:57:47] maybe more than
[00:57:50] for some most of the people that are going fast
[00:57:53] but some people they want to go fast either
[00:58:00] we kind of see the direction where the sport is going
[00:58:03] and then I say we
[00:58:05] but I'm not like involved into thinking
[00:58:09] the range of the brand
[00:58:14] but I feel like I'm still a part of all this
[00:58:18] and yeah now people will have
[00:58:25] the choice between different tips
[00:58:28] of different kind of gear
[00:58:33] depending on what they prefer as a riding
[00:58:37] and this is good
[00:58:40] because people could have more fun
[00:58:44] but in the other way, in the other end
[00:58:47] it's a bit like dangerous
[00:58:51] because we end up with three boards
[00:58:54] five forks, five rigs
[00:58:56] and then it's not affordable anymore
[00:58:59] sometimes I'm a bit worried about that
[00:59:02] because the sport is starting very simple
[00:59:06] and one board, one fork, one wing
[00:59:08] can do everything with that
[00:59:10] whatever the wind, the strength
[00:59:12] whatever the way it's done
[00:59:14] and now we end up with a full van
[00:59:17] and maybe I don't know sometimes
[00:59:19] 10,000 euros of gear inside
[00:59:22] it's like
[00:59:24] I don't know if we have the same mistake
[00:59:27] than we did with surfing in Great morning
[00:59:31] well I guess industry has to sell product
[00:59:34] and they have to create product
[00:59:36] and they're going to want to niche out their product lines
[00:59:38] to get continual income coming in
[00:59:40] because there are only going to be so many new beginners
[00:59:42] so I kind of understand it from a business standpoint
[00:59:44] and it makes sense but
[00:59:46] for those people at home
[00:59:48] and listening in and even watching your channel
[00:59:50] you can still get away with one board, one foil
[00:59:54] and let's say a four or five meter wing
[00:59:57] and you just go way out when those conditions are good for it
[01:00:00] there's nothing wrong with that
[01:00:02] I still have my first foil from Armstrong
[01:00:04] that I got three years ago
[01:00:06] 1550
[01:00:08] and I just
[01:00:10] on this trip to Laventona
[01:00:12] I got to try out some brand new axis gear
[01:00:14] and obviously because it's three years newer
[01:00:18] there's some performance changes
[01:00:22] and like if I breach out of the water
[01:00:25] I can put the foil back in
[01:00:27] I can tip breach, I can do all these things
[01:00:29] but I still have a foil
[01:00:31] wasn't designed to do
[01:00:33] but nobody's foil could do that back then
[01:00:35] but it's still super fun
[01:00:37] like I still have a blast
[01:00:39] if you ride a Civic
[01:00:41] you're still getting around
[01:00:43] sure it's not a Ferrari
[01:00:45] but you still get to have fun
[01:00:47] you still get to go to the grocery store
[01:00:49] so like I
[01:00:51] yeah exactly
[01:00:53] but we need to not forget that
[01:00:55] and to inspire people
[01:00:57] because we have fun
[01:00:59] and because they can have fun also
[01:01:01] with a very simple gear as we used to have
[01:01:03] and it's very important
[01:01:05] and I think
[01:01:07] I need to
[01:01:09] I tried to do it already
[01:01:11] but sometimes I testing new gears
[01:01:13] and giving information
[01:01:15] to the most
[01:01:17] avid people
[01:01:19] for this new novelty
[01:01:21] but I think it's very important
[01:01:23] that people like me
[01:01:25] that yeah, like you did
[01:01:27] you can have fun with one foil
[01:01:29] one board, one wing
[01:01:31] for all the customers
[01:01:33] and
[01:01:35] it can be enough
[01:01:37] yeah and it could be okay
[01:01:39] and now with used gear
[01:01:41] if you're
[01:01:43] unable to go and spend
[01:01:45] 5,000, 6,000 US or Euro
[01:01:47] or even Canadian or other
[01:01:49] you can find gear at a lower price
[01:01:51] point that performs well
[01:01:53] and it's not something about innovation
[01:01:55] and driving it forward
[01:01:57] so now all of our gear
[01:01:59] because everybody watches everybody
[01:02:01] all of the gear is getting substantially better
[01:02:03] easier to use
[01:02:05] more performance
[01:02:07] so I think that's another cool concept as well
[01:02:09] and hopefully maybe with this surplus of stock
[01:02:11] then some prices are going to come down
[01:02:13] which will allow other people
[01:02:15] to get in
[01:02:17] because not everybody can spend
[01:02:19] 6,000 to 10,000 dollars to get started
[01:02:21] so if you're positive the brands are helping
[01:02:23] in this way by
[01:02:25] by taking a little bit of a hit
[01:02:27] but maybe you're right
[01:02:29] maybe this will help other people get into the sport
[01:02:31] yeah, of course
[01:02:33] the price
[01:02:35] is always
[01:02:37] an important topic
[01:02:39] when talking to
[01:02:41] going wider
[01:02:43] so there's a competition between the brands
[01:02:47] I think helps the price
[01:02:49] not always
[01:02:55] the public price
[01:02:57] like on the catalogue
[01:02:59] but the reality in the shop
[01:03:01] the price
[01:03:03] actually people pay
[01:03:05] is a bit lower maybe 2 days
[01:03:07] than
[01:03:09] 1 or 2 years ago
[01:03:11] but as we said as well
[01:03:13] the second end market
[01:03:15] is very dynamic
[01:03:17] and it's pretty good because
[01:03:19] the early days after the Covid
[01:03:21] there was no
[01:03:23] second end
[01:03:25] and then the ticket
[01:03:27] the entry ticket into the sport was very high
[01:03:29] now it's more affordable
[01:03:31] thanks to second end
[01:03:33] and there are some very good gear
[01:03:35] available
[01:03:37] on the second end
[01:03:39] because maybe the third generation
[01:03:41] of Ford and Wings
[01:03:43] they are still fun
[01:03:45] we had fun with it
[01:03:47] so still possible to have fun with it
[01:03:49] but
[01:03:51] you can find very good stuff
[01:03:53] like from last year
[01:03:55] or the year before
[01:03:57] quite affordable I think
[01:03:59] yeah that's true
[01:04:01] like we have a little
[01:04:03] Facebook group that's growing
[01:04:05] it's like the Canadian classifies
[01:04:07] for wing foiling and stuff
[01:04:09] and now it's called Winglife with the podcast
[01:04:11] but there's a lot of people
[01:04:13] posting stuff all the time
[01:04:15] and it's one of the main buy and sells
[01:04:17] in Canada and stuff for gear
[01:04:19] and people posting stuff
[01:04:21] all the time, people are picking up stuff
[01:04:23] from there all the time so it's really nice to have
[01:04:25] that network and they're all over the world
[01:04:27] which is cool
[01:04:29] but that is another cool thing as well
[01:04:31] so
[01:04:33] when's your next like where are you off to next
[01:04:35] for a cool shoot
[01:04:37] or some work
[01:04:39] as I said
[01:04:41] I'm fortunate enough to live in Toulon
[01:04:43] so you're okay
[01:04:45] we are shooting all year long
[01:04:47] with amazing conditions
[01:04:51] so yeah I think I'm supposed to
[01:04:53] stay here for the next weeks
[01:04:55] I might go to
[01:04:57] Carribean
[01:04:59] in
[01:05:01] next month
[01:05:03] not confirmed yet
[01:05:05] but I'm
[01:05:07] happy here you know
[01:05:09] with my family
[01:05:11] we have very good conditions
[01:05:13] and it's good to travel
[01:05:15] good to see new places
[01:05:17] good to see
[01:05:19] to visit very good places like Maori
[01:05:21] I cannot
[01:05:23] forget that
[01:05:25] it's not that good
[01:05:27] for nowadays
[01:05:29] to take planes
[01:05:33] so
[01:05:35] since we have good conditions here
[01:05:37] I feel
[01:05:39] happy enough
[01:05:41] to be here
[01:05:45] yeah
[01:05:47] it's good
[01:05:49] I appreciate traveling
[01:05:51] but
[01:05:55] I might be if I'm here I'm staying home
[01:05:57] I mean
[01:05:59] it doesn't
[01:06:01] really
[01:06:03] it's not really bad
[01:06:05] even for producing content
[01:06:07] because we have sun
[01:06:09] we have wind
[01:06:11] just if I
[01:06:13] look for some
[01:06:15] specific conditions
[01:06:17] for special ways
[01:06:19] for example
[01:06:21] maybe it's easier to go
[01:06:23] to travel but
[01:06:25] I don't feel any special need
[01:06:29] right now so
[01:06:31] you guys have good conditions
[01:06:33] conditions over there and stuff
[01:06:35] that's pretty awesome
[01:06:37] is there anything else you want to touch upon
[01:06:39] we can probably in French
[01:06:41] a little bit
[01:06:43] but happy to do that as well
[01:06:47] is there anything you'd want to touch on today
[01:06:49] to introduce to people
[01:06:51] who are listening to you maybe in English
[01:06:53] for the first time
[01:06:55] yeah I'm happy
[01:06:57] if I can touch new people
[01:06:59] and share my knowledge
[01:07:01] my experience
[01:07:03] everything that I received from my previous job
[01:07:05] and all the people
[01:07:07] I've been lucky enough to meet
[01:07:09] if I can share it
[01:07:11] with more people
[01:07:13] I would be even more happy
[01:07:15] and
[01:07:17] if you are watching my channel
[01:07:19] and you don't speak French
[01:07:23] check the subtitles
[01:07:25] because you can activate the English subtitles
[01:07:27] most of the time
[01:07:29] I think it's only
[01:07:31] some interviews that I don't
[01:07:33] translate because it's been more complicated
[01:07:35] but all my tutorials
[01:07:37] my reviews
[01:07:39] are all translated to English
[01:07:43] and yeah I'm always happy
[01:07:45] to meet new people at the beach as well
[01:07:49] feel free to come
[01:07:51] to me
[01:07:53] and thanks to all the people
[01:07:55] following me
[01:07:59] I mean
[01:08:01] it means a lot for me
[01:08:03] to so many people watching
[01:08:05] my video
[01:08:07] and I'm very happy that they can
[01:08:09] help you
[01:08:11] to appreciate more
[01:08:13] time with the water
[01:08:15] yeah that's it
[01:08:17] have fun!
[01:08:19] that's cool
[01:08:21] alright everybody well hey
[01:08:23] I'm going to end this tonight on this kind of cool episode
[01:08:25] with fellow content creator
[01:08:27] and we will see you all
[01:08:29] next time
[01:08:31] and make sure to check out
[01:08:33] before we go, make sure to check out
[01:08:35] his YouTube channel
[01:08:37] so Erwan what is your YouTube channel
[01:08:39] and website and Instagram handles and stuff
[01:08:41] my YouTube channel
[01:08:43] names is
[01:08:45] WaterSportZone
[01:08:47] so WaterSportZone is here
[01:08:49] you can type
[01:08:51] your brother
[01:08:53] it's like youtube.com
[01:08:55] slash at WaterSportZone
[01:08:57] you can go direct to it
[01:08:59] feel free to explore the playlist
[01:09:01] I think there are more than
[01:09:03] 200 videos now
[01:09:05] because I publish every week
[01:09:07] every Saturday morning
[01:09:09] and sometimes a bit more in the summer
[01:09:11] so more than 200 videos
[01:09:13] about wing foiling
[01:09:15] windsurfing, kite surfing
[01:09:17] downwind foiling
[01:09:19] which I started
[01:09:21] last year
[01:09:23] and I'm very hooked in
[01:09:25] as well
[01:09:27] and yeah
[01:09:29] feel free to visit
[01:09:31] and hopefully
[01:09:33] you can meet as well on Instagram
[01:09:35] my Instagram is
[01:09:37] not easy it's my name Erwan Joffrois
[01:09:39] and I'm sharing
[01:09:41] content as well
[01:09:43] not every day almost every day
[01:09:45] and let's meet there
[01:09:47] alright perfect
[01:09:49] alright thanks everybody
[01:09:51] and we'll chat soon