Wing Foil World Tour (GWA) Show #7 - Recap of Dakhla Morocco 2024

[00:00:00] Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. This week we have our 7th GWA episode. We recap the recent wave event in Dakhla Morocco, we talk about the conditions, new faces, the event site, Cash and Elena's big win, and we also go into the surf foil contest, and much more. We really do hope that you enjoy this episode.

[00:00:23] If you haven't caught last week's episode, it was with Yann Riflet, a pro windsurfer and wing foiler turned content creator from La France. He joined us to talk about his entry into water sports, his early competitive days, his transition to wing foiling, and then the creation of his YouTube channel, Yann Riflet Free Rider, and his awesome lifestyle, living both in Brazil and France with his wife Lessa. I hope you enjoy that episode as well.

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[00:02:27] Welcome to the Wing Life Podcast, where we talk about wing foiling and the lifestyles of those who enjoy this great sport.

[00:02:35] All right, sir, welcome back. Thanks for coming.

[00:02:37] Thank you.

[00:03:11] Thank you.

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[00:04:43] Thank you.

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[00:05:01] Thank you, thank you.

[00:05:02] the hotel which hosts the event is right on the point

[00:05:05] so everybody stays in the bungalows

[00:05:07] in the hotel and you know if you

[00:05:09] have let's say

[00:05:11] the privilege to have one of the

[00:05:13] bungalows in the first row you even

[00:05:15] can watch out still lying in bed

[00:05:17] you can watch out and you see the point

[00:05:19] and where people

[00:05:21] take off on the wave

[00:05:22] yeah one of those

[00:05:26] not the only one

[00:05:30] hey really nice

[00:05:31] that's awesome

[00:05:32] so what kind of winds

[00:05:35] did you expect is it

[00:05:37] windswell is it ocean swell

[00:05:39] like for people who haven't been there

[00:05:41] yeah so the spot is located

[00:05:43] it's Dakhla is on the

[00:05:45] most southern tip of Morocco

[00:05:46] for those who know Morocco a bit they know

[00:05:49] it's on the west side of Africa

[00:05:51] northwest side of Africa but it's a really

[00:05:53] long stretch that goes

[00:05:55] down from the Strait of Gibraltar

[00:05:58] basically

[00:05:59] starting in Spain all the way

[00:06:01] down to Dakhla which is more or less

[00:06:03] the end of Morocco the southern part

[00:06:05] but this stretches down I think nearly

[00:06:07] 2,000 kilometers

[00:06:08] the country 1,500 to 2,000 kilometers

[00:06:11] I'm not sure about it

[00:06:13] so it is really exposed

[00:06:15] on the western northwestern side of Africa

[00:06:17] close to Cape Verdean Islands

[00:06:19] and Canary Islands

[00:06:20] which means they pick up

[00:06:22] north swells

[00:06:23] and now

[00:06:25] we are getting into northern hemisphere

[00:06:27] winter that's the time where usually

[00:06:28] the north swell starts to

[00:06:29] you know start to work

[00:06:32] so in the summertime

[00:06:33] it's a really windy place

[00:06:35] Dakhla in general

[00:06:36] has the special setup

[00:06:38] that is the whole

[00:06:39] it's getting more and more popular

[00:06:40] with water sports

[00:06:41] kiting and windsurfing

[00:06:42] and wing foiling

[00:06:43] because it has those spots on the coast

[00:06:45] where we run the wave discipline

[00:06:47] but it also got a lagoon inside

[00:06:49] a huge lagoon

[00:06:50] with many hotels

[00:06:51] that provide also wing foiling gear

[00:06:52] and schools and lessons

[00:06:54] which is a really safe place to learn

[00:06:57] it's super flat

[00:06:58] and the wind is even stronger

[00:07:00] and yeah

[00:07:01] and it's

[00:07:02] we are

[00:07:03] so people that travel to Dakhla

[00:07:05] usually they can move around

[00:07:07] and then

[00:07:08] and then

[00:07:08] wing foil

[00:07:09] and ride at different spots

[00:07:11] so it's a really

[00:07:12] nice place

[00:07:13] it has this

[00:07:14] desert vibe

[00:07:17] Moroccan oriental

[00:07:20] atmosphere

[00:07:21] so

[00:07:22] with dunes

[00:07:23] and it's

[00:07:24] it's a rather dry place

[00:07:25] doesn't have a lot of rain

[00:07:26] the city is growing a lot

[00:07:28] and

[00:07:30] now the flight connections

[00:07:31] get also better

[00:07:32] it used to be a really hard place

[00:07:33] to get to

[00:07:34] I mean my car

[00:07:35] from

[00:07:36] the other places in Morocco

[00:07:38] like Rabat

[00:07:38] and Marrakesh

[00:07:39] it's like a 10-12 hour drive

[00:07:41] where now

[00:07:42] there are flight connections

[00:07:43] every day

[00:07:44] so it is

[00:07:45] a lot easier

[00:07:46] the airport is like

[00:07:47] 10 minutes more or less

[00:07:48] from West Point

[00:07:49] where the competition

[00:07:50] has been taking place

[00:07:52] and

[00:07:53] yeah

[00:07:54] and

[00:07:55] we're depending

[00:07:56] as I said

[00:07:56] we're depending on these

[00:07:57] northsways that are just starting

[00:07:58] usually around this time of the year

[00:08:00] and the forecast has been

[00:08:02] very poor

[00:08:03] you know

[00:08:04] when I was looking at the

[00:08:05] at the forecast

[00:08:06] the whole one

[00:08:06] two weeks before we headed out

[00:08:08] to Morocco

[00:08:08] I was like

[00:08:09] damn

[00:08:10] doesn't look good

[00:08:11] you know

[00:08:11] it's a point break

[00:08:12] that needs a certain size

[00:08:13] of swell to actually work

[00:08:14] otherwise we would need

[00:08:16] to move to

[00:08:16] to other spots

[00:08:18] which doesn't make it so easy

[00:08:22] and

[00:08:22] yeah

[00:08:22] we

[00:08:23] we

[00:08:24] we went to the event

[00:08:25] not having actually

[00:08:26] the greatest expectations

[00:08:28] but

[00:08:28] it turned out to be

[00:08:30] quite a bit better

[00:08:31] than we thought

[00:08:31] and we got actually

[00:08:32] a couple of decent days

[00:08:34] where

[00:08:35] the swell

[00:08:36] cost

[00:08:36] forecast

[00:08:37] wasn't as big

[00:08:38] as the year before

[00:08:39] but we got

[00:08:39] nice overhead waves

[00:08:41] on a couple of the days

[00:08:42] it changes a lot also

[00:08:44] with the tide

[00:08:45] so

[00:08:46] with the foils

[00:08:47] we were

[00:08:47] we were restricted

[00:08:49] to run on the high tide

[00:08:51] mainly

[00:08:51] on the smaller days

[00:08:52] because

[00:08:53] the tide difference

[00:08:54] is two and a half meters there

[00:08:55] and it's a big sand bank

[00:08:57] that shapes up the wave nicely

[00:08:58] when it's on low tide

[00:08:59] but it's getting really

[00:09:00] really shallow

[00:09:01] so at one point

[00:09:02] we always had to stop

[00:09:04] wing foiling

[00:09:05] during the day

[00:09:05] when the low tide

[00:09:06] came in too much

[00:09:07] and we started

[00:09:09] too many of the riders

[00:09:11] hitting the foils

[00:09:11] on the sand bank

[00:09:12] in the heats

[00:09:14] we stopped

[00:09:14] and then

[00:09:15] switched obviously

[00:09:16] to kiting

[00:09:16] where the depth

[00:09:17] of the water

[00:09:18] is not such an issue

[00:09:19] and started again

[00:09:20] next day

[00:09:20] on the wing foil

[00:09:21] side

[00:09:23] also by

[00:09:24] running the competition

[00:09:25] the first time

[00:09:27] thing we tried

[00:09:29] that we ran

[00:09:30] overlapped heats

[00:09:30] because we know

[00:09:31] usually we have

[00:09:32] on wave events

[00:09:33] the heats are long

[00:09:34] you need

[00:09:34] let's say

[00:09:35] 18-20 hours

[00:09:36] of pure competition

[00:09:37] time

[00:09:38] and with only

[00:09:39] those couple

[00:09:40] of days

[00:09:40] in the window

[00:09:41] we had

[00:09:41] with the swell

[00:09:42] forecast

[00:09:42] we really wanted

[00:09:44] to make

[00:09:44] the best out

[00:09:45] of it

[00:09:45] to provide

[00:09:46] quality

[00:09:47] for as much

[00:09:48] of the competition

[00:09:48] as we can

[00:09:49] so we started

[00:09:50] trying a new

[00:09:51] overlap

[00:09:53] format

[00:09:53] where

[00:09:54] those watching

[00:09:55] the live stream

[00:09:56] have probably

[00:09:56] realized

[00:09:57] it's the same

[00:09:57] system

[00:09:58] that's also

[00:09:58] run in WSL

[00:09:59] if they need

[00:10:00] to speed up

[00:10:01] things

[00:10:02] where

[00:10:02] you have

[00:10:04] one heat

[00:10:04] running

[00:10:05] and while

[00:10:05] and at the

[00:10:06] middle

[00:10:07] once it's

[00:10:08] the middle

[00:10:08] of the heat

[00:10:09] the next

[00:10:09] heat

[00:10:09] already

[00:10:10] gets into

[00:10:10] the water

[00:10:11] so

[00:10:12] you have

[00:10:13] actually

[00:10:13] then

[00:10:13] two heats

[00:10:14] running

[00:10:14] at the same

[00:10:15] time

[00:10:15] overlapping

[00:10:16] always half

[00:10:17] the heat

[00:10:18] overlapping

[00:10:18] and then

[00:10:18] the next

[00:10:19] heat

[00:10:19] gets in

[00:10:19] and so on

[00:10:20] where

[00:10:21] the first

[00:10:21] heat

[00:10:22] in the

[00:10:22] water

[00:10:23] has priority

[00:10:23] over the

[00:10:24] other one

[00:10:24] which means

[00:10:25] if

[00:10:27] one

[00:10:27] rider

[00:10:28] wants to

[00:10:28] pick up

[00:10:28] a wave

[00:10:29] and it's

[00:10:29] a competitor

[00:10:30] of the

[00:10:30] first

[00:10:30] heat

[00:10:31] he has

[00:10:31] priority

[00:10:32] over the

[00:10:33] guys

[00:10:33] in the

[00:10:33] second

[00:10:33] heat

[00:10:34] so the

[00:10:35] first half

[00:10:35] of your

[00:10:36] heat

[00:10:36] you would

[00:10:36] have

[00:10:36] priority

[00:10:37] no sorry

[00:10:38] the first

[00:10:38] half of the

[00:10:38] heat

[00:10:39] you would

[00:10:39] not have

[00:10:39] priority

[00:10:40] because still

[00:10:40] the heat

[00:10:41] your previous

[00:10:41] heat

[00:10:41] has priority

[00:10:42] and you can

[00:10:43] only take

[00:10:44] the leftovers

[00:10:44] let's say

[00:10:46] and then

[00:10:47] the second

[00:10:48] half of the

[00:10:49] heat

[00:10:49] you have

[00:10:50] priority

[00:10:50] and you

[00:10:51] can take

[00:10:51] the waves

[00:10:52] and the others

[00:10:53] have to

[00:10:53] basically

[00:10:54] take

[00:10:55] the leftovers

[00:10:56] and

[00:10:57] this has

[00:10:58] been working

[00:10:58] really well

[00:10:59] because what

[00:11:00] it does

[00:11:00] it allows

[00:11:02] us to

[00:11:03] actually

[00:11:03] extend

[00:11:04] the time

[00:11:04] of the

[00:11:04] heats

[00:11:05] and run

[00:11:05] longer

[00:11:05] heats

[00:11:06] than

[00:11:06] what we

[00:11:06] would

[00:11:07] do

[00:11:07] on the

[00:11:07] normal

[00:11:07] system

[00:11:08] and gives

[00:11:09] the riders

[00:11:09] more time

[00:11:10] in the

[00:11:10] water

[00:11:10] and the

[00:11:10] heat

[00:11:11] but in

[00:11:12] total

[00:11:13] time

[00:11:13] because you

[00:11:14] don't have

[00:11:14] transitions

[00:11:15] you save

[00:11:16] probably 30-40%

[00:11:18] of the whole

[00:11:19] duration

[00:11:19] which the

[00:11:20] competition

[00:11:21] takes

[00:11:21] so you can

[00:11:22] nearly run

[00:11:23] a 24-rider

[00:11:24] competition

[00:11:25] in a day

[00:11:25] like this

[00:11:28] and this

[00:11:29] is helpful

[00:11:30] obviously

[00:11:32] so we

[00:11:33] have been

[00:11:33] trying that

[00:11:33] for the

[00:11:34] first time

[00:11:34] we know

[00:11:34] we have

[00:11:35] prepared

[00:11:35] also our

[00:11:36] scoring system

[00:11:37] for this

[00:11:37] and I mean

[00:11:38] obviously on the

[00:11:39] live stream

[00:11:39] you will then

[00:11:40] also miss a bit

[00:11:41] of waves

[00:11:42] and it cannot

[00:11:42] be possible

[00:11:43] to stream

[00:11:43] every single

[00:11:44] wave because

[00:11:45] sometimes things

[00:11:46] happen too

[00:11:47] quick

[00:11:48] but we were

[00:11:49] very happy

[00:11:49] with the outcome

[00:11:50] and how it

[00:11:51] worked out

[00:11:51] we didn't

[00:11:52] have really

[00:11:52] a lot of

[00:11:53] issues with

[00:11:53] it

[00:11:54] we also

[00:11:54] thought

[00:11:55] we might

[00:11:56] have a lot

[00:11:56] of interferences

[00:11:57] that riders

[00:11:57] are going to

[00:11:58] drop on each

[00:11:58] other

[00:11:59] because you

[00:11:59] have four

[00:11:59] people in

[00:12:00] the water

[00:12:00] at the same

[00:12:00] time

[00:12:01] but they

[00:12:01] were all

[00:12:01] respecting

[00:12:02] the rules

[00:12:02] and there

[00:12:03] wasn't any

[00:12:05] real issue

[00:12:05] with that

[00:12:07] so yeah

[00:12:08] the competition

[00:12:09] and the

[00:12:09] conditions

[00:12:10] have been

[00:12:10] actually a

[00:12:11] lot better

[00:12:12] than we

[00:12:12] expected it

[00:12:13] to be

[00:12:13] and I

[00:12:14] think it

[00:12:15] was especially

[00:12:15] amazing to

[00:12:16] see also

[00:12:17] the days

[00:12:18] that were not

[00:12:18] that the

[00:12:20] top days

[00:12:21] you know

[00:12:21] with the

[00:12:21] best

[00:12:21] conditions

[00:12:22] like how

[00:12:23] good the

[00:12:24] performance

[00:12:25] in general

[00:12:25] of wing

[00:12:26] foilers

[00:12:26] nowadays

[00:12:27] is on

[00:12:28] in surfing

[00:12:28] you know

[00:12:29] and how

[00:12:30] good you

[00:12:31] can make

[00:12:31] it look

[00:12:31] how's that

[00:12:32] coming along

[00:12:33] like the

[00:12:33] stuff that

[00:12:34] we're seeing

[00:12:34] now with

[00:12:35] everybody

[00:12:35] is insane

[00:12:37] foil slides

[00:12:38] again

[00:12:39] almost surf

[00:12:40] style top

[00:12:41] turns where

[00:12:42] they're snapping

[00:12:42] the foil out

[00:12:43] of the water

[00:12:43] and jumps

[00:12:44] it's progressed

[00:12:45] quite a bit

[00:12:46] in a year

[00:12:48] yeah

[00:12:48] absolutely

[00:12:49] I think

[00:12:49] I mean

[00:12:50] we are

[00:12:50] seeing a

[00:12:51] steep evolution

[00:12:52] in the wave

[00:12:52] discipline

[00:12:53] I've been

[00:12:53] saying that

[00:12:54] I think

[00:12:54] in our chat

[00:12:55] that we had

[00:12:56] after Cape Verde

[00:12:56] you know

[00:12:57] where

[00:12:57] this year

[00:12:58] was the first

[00:12:58] wave event

[00:12:59] and we had

[00:12:59] sick conditions

[00:13:00] it was big

[00:13:01] it was like

[00:13:01] powerful

[00:13:02] it was like

[00:13:03] proper big

[00:13:03] surf

[00:13:04] and

[00:13:06] where I said

[00:13:07] well

[00:13:07] you know

[00:13:08] last year

[00:13:08] we were

[00:13:09] starting

[00:13:09] the wave

[00:13:10] discipline

[00:13:10] kind of

[00:13:11] showing

[00:13:12] or wanted

[00:13:13] to know

[00:13:13] if our

[00:13:15] athletes

[00:13:15] or wing

[00:13:15] forward

[00:13:15] athletes

[00:13:16] can actually

[00:13:16] perform

[00:13:17] in proper

[00:13:18] waves

[00:13:18] and not

[00:13:18] only ride

[00:13:19] mushy

[00:13:19] onshore

[00:13:20] and it's

[00:13:21] been

[00:13:21] kind of

[00:13:22] okay

[00:13:22] can you

[00:13:22] we go

[00:13:23] to Cape Verde

[00:13:24] are these

[00:13:24] guys

[00:13:25] actually

[00:13:25] able to

[00:13:25] ride in

[00:13:26] Cape Verde

[00:13:26] in

[00:13:27] Punta

[00:13:27] Preta

[00:13:27] in a

[00:13:28] heavy wave

[00:13:29] and

[00:13:30] this year

[00:13:30] it was

[00:13:31] in Cape Verde

[00:13:32] this was not

[00:13:33] the question

[00:13:33] anymore

[00:13:33] it was more

[00:13:34] about where

[00:13:34] is the

[00:13:35] limit

[00:13:35] and how

[00:13:37] crazy the

[00:13:37] performance

[00:13:38] can be

[00:13:38] but that

[00:13:39] was Cape Verde

[00:13:40] I mean

[00:13:40] Dachla is also

[00:13:41] a really

[00:13:42] good quality

[00:13:43] wave

[00:13:43] but it is

[00:13:44] a softer

[00:13:45] wave

[00:13:45] it is slower

[00:13:46] it's a more

[00:13:46] playful wave

[00:13:48] it allows you

[00:13:49] to ride

[00:13:50] more technically

[00:13:50] more tricky

[00:13:51] show more

[00:13:53] maneuvers

[00:13:53] on the

[00:13:53] wave

[00:13:54] and I

[00:13:55] think that's

[00:13:55] what we

[00:13:56] got

[00:13:56] you know

[00:13:56] that's

[00:13:56] what we

[00:13:57] saw

[00:13:57] we saw

[00:13:58] that now

[00:13:59] now

[00:14:00] foiling

[00:14:01] gets more

[00:14:01] into surf

[00:14:01] style

[00:14:02] like you

[00:14:02] say

[00:14:05] foil out

[00:14:06] or tail

[00:14:07] out

[00:14:07] whatever you

[00:14:08] want to call

[00:14:08] it

[00:14:09] slides

[00:14:11] airs

[00:14:12] so it's been

[00:14:13] it's been really a different game

[00:14:15] to Cape Verde

[00:14:17] and it was not about

[00:14:18] so much

[00:14:20] you know

[00:14:21] going as critical

[00:14:22] as Cape Verde

[00:14:23] was all about

[00:14:24] you know

[00:14:24] like how deep

[00:14:25] in the big waves

[00:14:26] the guys were going

[00:14:27] it was really about

[00:14:28] the technical aspect

[00:14:29] and I think

[00:14:31] it also showed

[00:14:33] a lot of new faces

[00:14:35] that we had in this event

[00:14:36] we had again

[00:14:37] a huge number of people

[00:14:38] who wanted to enter

[00:14:40] we had

[00:14:41] you know

[00:14:42] riders from Japan

[00:14:43] we had

[00:14:44] we had

[00:14:47] a couple of guys

[00:14:48] four or six guys

[00:14:49] I think

[00:14:50] from Maui

[00:14:50] this time at the event

[00:14:52] and the Maui gang

[00:14:53] has

[00:14:53] I have to say

[00:14:54] was pretty much ruling

[00:14:55] the event this year

[00:14:58] yeah

[00:14:59] the boys were ripping

[00:15:00] I have to say

[00:15:01] you know

[00:15:01] it was really

[00:15:02] we had Cash obviously

[00:15:03] as the main representative

[00:15:06] already on the tour

[00:15:07] last year

[00:15:07] but it was now

[00:15:08] we had Cash

[00:15:09] we had Otis

[00:15:09] we had both

[00:15:10] Spencer brothers

[00:15:12] Liam Corral

[00:15:13] Austin Kalama

[00:15:15] so quite a bunch

[00:15:16] of Maui people

[00:15:17] on this event

[00:15:18] and they are used

[00:15:19] to these kind of conditions

[00:15:20] and they were all

[00:15:21] performing super well

[00:15:22] I mean just showing

[00:15:23] Cash and Otis

[00:15:24] two best friends

[00:15:26] in the final

[00:15:27] of the men's division

[00:15:29] these guys

[00:15:29] grew up together

[00:15:31] and they also told me

[00:15:32] even both their parents

[00:15:33] were there

[00:15:34] and they said like

[00:15:34] this is really special

[00:15:35] you know

[00:15:36] these guys know each other

[00:15:37] from

[00:15:39] small time

[00:15:40] in kindergarten

[00:15:40] I don't know

[00:15:41] and they have been

[00:15:43] surfing together

[00:15:45] and

[00:15:46] now they ride

[00:15:47] a final together

[00:15:48] you know

[00:15:48] this is for something

[00:15:49] something really

[00:15:50] really special

[00:15:50] we didn't realize

[00:15:51] that

[00:15:55] yeah

[00:15:56] they were just

[00:15:56] having fun

[00:15:57] and

[00:15:59] they were

[00:16:00] giving it all

[00:16:02] and

[00:16:04] yeah

[00:16:04] and also

[00:16:05] on the

[00:16:05] couple of other guys

[00:16:06] you know

[00:16:07] the third guy

[00:16:07] on the podium

[00:16:08] was Leon Schiel

[00:16:08] I mean Leon

[00:16:09] he's 14 years old

[00:16:11] that boy

[00:16:12] last year

[00:16:13] he was like

[00:16:13] throthing to enter

[00:16:14] in 2023

[00:16:15] on the wave events

[00:16:16] and he was

[00:16:17] because our age limit

[00:16:18] is 14

[00:16:18] last year

[00:16:19] he was 13

[00:16:19] so he

[00:16:20] he could

[00:16:21] only enter

[00:16:21] one or two times

[00:16:22] because he got a wild card

[00:16:23] in the end

[00:16:24] because his spot got open

[00:16:25] but usually if somebody's

[00:16:26] under 14

[00:16:27] we don't let him enter

[00:16:28] only unless there's

[00:16:29] nobody with

[00:16:30] the age

[00:16:31] that wants to go

[00:16:32] so he got

[00:16:33] lucky last year

[00:16:34] to get

[00:16:34] to get in at some events

[00:16:36] but this year

[00:16:36] he is the first year

[00:16:38] that he has the age

[00:16:39] and he can compete

[00:16:39] on all the events

[00:16:40] and he made his first podium

[00:16:42] third place

[00:16:42] at 14 years old

[00:16:44] in the wave discipline

[00:16:45] so

[00:16:46] coming from the UK

[00:16:47] that's epic

[00:16:49] yeah

[00:16:50] so

[00:16:50] it's been

[00:16:51] yeah

[00:16:52] exactly

[00:16:53] it's been

[00:16:54] it's been

[00:16:54] an interesting competition

[00:16:56] I really have to say

[00:16:57] with new faces

[00:16:59] showing

[00:16:59] you know

[00:17:00] there's so many

[00:17:01] new guys

[00:17:01] that we

[00:17:03] haven't seen yet

[00:17:04] on the tour

[00:17:04] that have the potential

[00:17:06] to be in the top

[00:17:06] and we want to see them back

[00:17:10] so that's really cool

[00:17:13] and also

[00:17:18] this year

[00:17:18] than last year

[00:17:20] now they're getting

[00:17:21] the hang of the wave

[00:17:22] discipline too

[00:17:23] with

[00:17:23] you know

[00:17:24] good performers

[00:17:25] obviously

[00:17:25] Elena

[00:17:25] she won in Cape Verde

[00:17:27] she won again

[00:17:27] she's hot for the title

[00:17:31] on the woman's side

[00:17:32] I think

[00:17:32] now she has

[00:17:33] two events

[00:17:34] two wins

[00:17:34] one more event

[00:17:35] to go

[00:17:37] it's not done yet

[00:17:38] the deal

[00:17:38] but it's looking

[00:17:38] pretty solid for her

[00:17:39] on the men's side

[00:17:41] yeah

[00:17:42] Cash

[00:17:42] obviously

[00:17:43] he was only

[00:17:44] second place

[00:17:45] in Cape Verde

[00:17:46] and he won now

[00:17:47] in Morocco

[00:17:49] but Malo

[00:17:50] who won

[00:17:51] in

[00:17:52] in Cape Verde

[00:17:54] yeah

[00:17:55] had

[00:17:55] kind of an early exit

[00:17:57] for him

[00:17:58] he

[00:17:59] I don't remember

[00:18:00] exactly who he lost to

[00:18:01] but he

[00:18:03] yeah

[00:18:04] in this heat

[00:18:05] he didn't perform

[00:18:05] up to his standard

[00:18:06] and he knew it

[00:18:07] and he went out

[00:18:08] the level was really high

[00:18:10] not getting a finish

[00:18:11] that he was

[00:18:13] expecting

[00:18:14] and not giving him

[00:18:15] enough points

[00:18:16] which doesn't mean

[00:18:17] he's out of the title race

[00:18:19] but it's going to make it

[00:18:20] a lot harder for him now

[00:18:22] to take it in Brazil

[00:18:23] he will

[00:18:24] he will probably not be able

[00:18:25] to make it out of his own effort

[00:18:26] he will depend on

[00:18:28] the other guys

[00:18:28] having bad results

[00:18:29] and him winning

[00:18:30] if he wants to get the title

[00:18:31] this year

[00:18:32] okay

[00:18:33] leaving the door

[00:18:34] wide open

[00:18:35] for Sir Cash

[00:18:36] did you see his movie

[00:18:37] that was recently put out

[00:18:39] by Armstrong

[00:18:40] yeah

[00:18:40] of course

[00:18:42] one of the best

[00:18:43] you're talking about

[00:18:45] the one in South Africa

[00:18:46] I guess

[00:18:47] yeah

[00:18:48] definitely

[00:18:49] definitely

[00:18:49] one of the reddest

[00:18:51] one of the reddest

[00:18:53] wing for election

[00:18:54] I have seen

[00:18:55] ever

[00:18:58] absolutely nuts

[00:18:59] so overall

[00:19:02] what are kind of

[00:19:03] outstanding

[00:19:04] are there any waves

[00:19:05] that stand out

[00:19:06] any kind of

[00:19:07] times during the heats

[00:19:08] that stand out the most

[00:19:09] during the contest

[00:19:11] yeah

[00:19:11] that's always a difficult

[00:19:12] question I think

[00:19:13] I mean obviously

[00:19:14] I'm not seeing

[00:19:15] every heat

[00:19:16] and every trick

[00:19:16] that's happening

[00:19:17] as I'm not a judge

[00:19:18] you know

[00:19:19] so I have to

[00:19:21] also do

[00:19:22] focus on other work

[00:19:23] parts during the

[00:19:24] competition runs

[00:19:24] but I try to follow

[00:19:25] as much as I can

[00:19:27] and

[00:19:28] yeah

[00:19:29] I would say

[00:19:30] not calling any

[00:19:31] I mean we had

[00:19:32] a 10 point ride

[00:19:34] by Cash

[00:19:35] which was

[00:19:35] outstanding wave

[00:19:36] I mean

[00:19:37] the way he performed

[00:19:38] on that wave

[00:19:39] which was not

[00:19:40] as I said

[00:19:40] a Ponto Preta

[00:19:42] 4-5 meter

[00:19:43] monster wave

[00:19:44] it was

[00:19:45] just technically

[00:19:47] perfectly written

[00:19:47] and he gave him

[00:19:49] a 10 point score

[00:19:50] I think it was

[00:19:52] a lot about

[00:19:52] this event

[00:19:54] about doing

[00:19:54] airs

[00:19:55] and as you know

[00:19:56] by the rules

[00:19:57] at the moment

[00:19:58] the boys

[00:19:59] and the girls

[00:20:00] are both

[00:20:01] the same rules

[00:20:01] are still not allowed

[00:20:03] to

[00:20:04] at the moment

[00:20:04] to use

[00:20:07] the wing

[00:20:08] during the airs

[00:20:09] so they cannot

[00:20:10] do airs

[00:20:11] with the wing

[00:20:11] sheeted in

[00:20:12] like windsurfing

[00:20:13] style

[00:20:13] which would

[00:20:14] allow them

[00:20:14] to go much

[00:20:15] bigger

[00:20:15] they have to

[00:20:16] do it purely

[00:20:16] with the power

[00:20:17] of the wave

[00:20:17] which is way

[00:20:18] more technical

[00:20:19] but we saw

[00:20:20] amazing airs

[00:20:21] like this

[00:20:21] you know

[00:20:24] air 360s

[00:20:25] even backflip

[00:20:26] attempts

[00:20:28] we'll see

[00:20:29] what will be

[00:20:30] discussed

[00:20:30] at the end

[00:20:31] of the season

[00:20:31] if this rule

[00:20:32] might be changing

[00:20:33] because we see

[00:20:34] the you know

[00:20:35] development

[00:20:36] going in that

[00:20:36] direction

[00:20:37] but obviously

[00:20:37] we want to

[00:20:39] keep

[00:20:39] the wave

[00:20:40] discipline

[00:20:41] really surfing

[00:20:42] oriented

[00:20:42] and don't

[00:20:43] want to

[00:20:43] create another

[00:20:44] freestyle

[00:20:44] discipline

[00:20:45] and you know

[00:20:46] have riders

[00:20:48] just doing

[00:20:49] the most

[00:20:50] technical

[00:20:51] jumps

[00:20:51] on the wave

[00:20:52] there is

[00:20:53] another

[00:20:53] discipline

[00:20:54] for that

[00:20:54] but we

[00:20:56] can see

[00:20:56] the shows

[00:20:57] going into

[00:20:58] air game

[00:20:59] and that's

[00:20:59] where I think

[00:21:00] the evolution

[00:21:01] of the sport

[00:21:01] is going

[00:21:02] but even

[00:21:03] without the

[00:21:04] use of

[00:21:04] the wing

[00:21:05] yeah you

[00:21:06] could see

[00:21:06] guys flying

[00:21:07] over the

[00:21:08] wave

[00:21:08] carving

[00:21:09] 360s

[00:21:11] yeah and a

[00:21:12] lot of other

[00:21:12] creative stuff

[00:21:13] that we have

[00:21:15] seen

[00:21:15] I like the

[00:21:16] handle format

[00:21:17] and I think

[00:21:17] a lot of

[00:21:18] other people

[00:21:18] do as well

[00:21:19] because it

[00:21:19] is more

[00:21:19] of a pure

[00:21:20] surf

[00:21:21] environment

[00:21:21] rather than

[00:21:22] just another

[00:21:23] freestyle

[00:21:23] but I've

[00:21:25] heard a couple

[00:21:25] people say

[00:21:26] that

[00:21:26] yeah I mean

[00:21:28] also within

[00:21:28] the riders

[00:21:29] we've been

[00:21:29] discussing this

[00:21:30] topic at

[00:21:30] each event

[00:21:31] I can tell

[00:21:31] you and

[00:21:32] it's not

[00:21:33] that all

[00:21:34] the athletes

[00:21:34] are actually

[00:21:35] of one

[00:21:35] opinion on

[00:21:36] that either

[00:21:36] you know

[00:21:37] there are

[00:21:38] some that

[00:21:38] really want

[00:21:39] to push

[00:21:40] for being

[00:21:41] able to

[00:21:42] use the

[00:21:42] wing for

[00:21:43] airs

[00:21:44] because they

[00:21:44] can go

[00:21:45] huge you

[00:21:45] know I

[00:21:46] mean you've

[00:21:46] seen footage

[00:21:47] from cash

[00:21:47] in South

[00:21:48] Africa for

[00:21:49] example

[00:21:49] massive

[00:21:50] airs and

[00:21:50] it looks

[00:21:50] spectacular

[00:21:51] yeah

[00:21:52] it looks

[00:21:53] huge I

[00:21:54] mean no

[00:21:55] question

[00:21:55] but there

[00:21:56] is also a

[00:21:57] big group

[00:21:57] inside the

[00:21:58] athletes that

[00:21:59] are actually

[00:21:59] saying what

[00:22:00] you just

[00:22:01] said they

[00:22:01] say we

[00:22:02] should keep

[00:22:03] it pure

[00:22:03] surf you

[00:22:04] know and

[00:22:05] if you can

[00:22:06] pop and do

[00:22:07] airs with the

[00:22:07] power of the

[00:22:08] wave that's

[00:22:08] fine but

[00:22:10] once you know

[00:22:11] we allow to

[00:22:11] use the

[00:22:12] wing we'll

[00:22:13] we'll get a

[00:22:15] lot more freestyle

[00:22:15] element in it

[00:22:16] I mean there are

[00:22:17] still ways to

[00:22:18] regulate it I

[00:22:19] think that's

[00:22:19] where I

[00:22:20] personally see

[00:22:21] it right now

[00:22:21] if we will

[00:22:22] allow you

[00:22:24] know maybe

[00:22:24] next year

[00:22:25] that the

[00:22:26] use of the

[00:22:27] wing for

[00:22:27] airs is

[00:22:28] allowed and

[00:22:28] you can

[00:22:28] grab the

[00:22:29] power handles

[00:22:30] to do

[00:22:31] airs then

[00:22:32] you can go

[00:22:32] higher and

[00:22:33] you know it

[00:22:34] will make

[00:22:34] a spectacular

[00:22:35] show but

[00:22:36] it should

[00:22:36] still be

[00:22:37] only rewarded

[00:22:38] if you if

[00:22:39] you do it in

[00:22:39] the critical

[00:22:40] part of the

[00:22:40] way if you

[00:22:41] don't want

[00:22:41] to see

[00:22:41] guys or

[00:22:43] girls 30

[00:22:44] meters away

[00:22:45] from the

[00:22:45] peak popping

[00:22:46] a back flip

[00:22:47] on the wave

[00:22:48] because that's a

[00:22:48] freestyle move

[00:22:49] that has nothing

[00:22:50] to do with

[00:22:50] race riding

[00:22:51] that shouldn't

[00:22:51] score much

[00:22:52] yeah like more

[00:22:53] similar to

[00:22:53] windsurfing when

[00:22:54] you have off

[00:22:54] the lips or

[00:22:55] goiters or

[00:22:56] 360s or

[00:22:57] whatever right

[00:22:58] like they're

[00:22:58] only doing

[00:22:58] it in a

[00:22:59] couple critical

[00:22:59] sections

[00:23:00] but yeah it's

[00:23:01] a discussion

[00:23:02] that will at

[00:23:03] the end of

[00:23:04] the season

[00:23:04] after Ibera

[00:23:05] Kera I mean

[00:23:05] we're going to

[00:23:06] the next event

[00:23:06] already in a

[00:23:07] week's time

[00:23:08] 10 days

[00:23:10] where we crown

[00:23:11] the world

[00:23:11] champion and

[00:23:12] then we're

[00:23:14] going to recap

[00:23:15] on the season

[00:23:15] we're going to

[00:23:16] talk you know

[00:23:17] about the new

[00:23:17] rulebook for

[00:23:18] 2025 and this

[00:23:19] is probably

[00:23:20] the you know

[00:23:21] the most discussed

[00:23:22] topic on the

[00:23:23] way of

[00:23:23] discipline for

[00:23:23] sure you know

[00:23:24] despite on

[00:23:25] on the choice

[00:23:27] of spots you

[00:23:28] know because I

[00:23:28] think at the

[00:23:29] moment we

[00:23:30] really keep it

[00:23:31] on prime

[00:23:32] conditions all

[00:23:34] the wave

[00:23:34] events and

[00:23:34] conditions with

[00:23:35] real surf

[00:23:36] spots but this

[00:23:38] is also another

[00:23:39] topic if we

[00:23:40] should run

[00:23:40] wave discipline

[00:23:42] maybe in

[00:23:42] spots which

[00:23:43] have more

[00:23:44] onshore

[00:23:44] conditions and

[00:23:45] are still wave

[00:23:46] riding but maybe

[00:23:47] not down the

[00:23:48] line side of

[00:23:49] yeah it's a

[00:23:49] good point so

[00:23:50] you have that

[00:23:52] as a topic

[00:23:53] whether or

[00:23:53] not you'll be

[00:23:54] able to use

[00:23:55] handles as a

[00:23:55] topic anything

[00:23:56] else that's

[00:23:57] standing out

[00:23:57] behind the

[00:23:58] scenes that

[00:24:00] you might want

[00:24:01] to tweak or

[00:24:02] change yeah

[00:24:03] I mean there

[00:24:04] is an there's

[00:24:05] another big

[00:24:05] topic which is

[00:24:07] not as

[00:24:07] technically when

[00:24:08] it comes to

[00:24:09] the riding but

[00:24:09] it's a it's a

[00:24:10] very obvious

[00:24:10] one is that

[00:24:11] the demand on

[00:24:15] on on on

[00:24:17] athletes that

[00:24:17] want to enter

[00:24:18] the wave

[00:24:19] world cups is

[00:24:20] getting bigger

[00:24:21] and bigger I

[00:24:22] mean we we

[00:24:23] don't have any

[00:24:23] other discipline

[00:24:25] where more

[00:24:26] people try to

[00:24:27] get into an

[00:24:28] event and in

[00:24:28] the wing for

[00:24:29] wave discipline

[00:24:31] and because the

[00:24:32] competition takes

[00:24:34] a long time in

[00:24:35] waves the heat

[00:24:36] so long you

[00:24:36] know we're

[00:24:37] running 20

[00:24:37] minute heats

[00:24:38] for example in

[00:24:38] Dachla and

[00:24:40] you need these

[00:24:41] nearly 20 hours

[00:24:42] of competition

[00:24:43] time to run

[00:24:45] we have limited

[00:24:46] it to 24 to

[00:24:48] 24 riders

[00:24:48] only 24 people

[00:24:50] per gender can

[00:24:51] enter but we

[00:24:52] have 50 60

[00:24:53] 70 male

[00:24:55] riders that

[00:24:55] want to enter

[00:24:56] so we have a

[00:24:57] video application

[00:24:58] system and a

[00:24:59] lot of them

[00:24:59] send in videos

[00:25:00] and actually

[00:25:01] it is a fact

[00:25:02] that when we

[00:25:03] do the video

[00:25:04] selections so

[00:25:06] the entry

[00:25:06] allocation you

[00:25:07] have right now

[00:25:07] is that 12

[00:25:09] 12 riders

[00:25:10] come from the

[00:25:11] ranking then

[00:25:12] you have 10

[00:25:13] wildcards which

[00:25:14] are partly video

[00:25:15] selections and

[00:25:16] partly GWA

[00:25:16] selections that

[00:25:17] are not only

[00:25:18] based on video

[00:25:19] and then you

[00:25:19] have the local

[00:25:21] wildcards which

[00:25:22] are two so

[00:25:22] that makes a

[00:25:23] 24th lead for

[00:25:24] a world cup

[00:25:26] but we have

[00:25:28] 20 30 people

[00:25:29] in the waiting

[00:25:30] list with a

[00:25:30] decent level

[00:25:32] where you say

[00:25:33] well not all

[00:25:33] the 2030 maybe

[00:25:34] but quite a lot

[00:25:35] of them you

[00:25:36] would say well

[00:25:36] those guys

[00:25:37] actually have a

[00:25:38] decent level

[00:25:39] and they should

[00:25:39] be in the

[00:25:39] world cup

[00:25:40] but we don't

[00:25:40] have more spots

[00:25:41] so this is an

[00:25:43] issue that we

[00:25:44] are still trying

[00:25:44] to solve because

[00:25:45] there are some

[00:25:46] good guys that

[00:25:48] have level to be

[00:25:49] on the world

[00:25:49] tour and can't

[00:25:50] get in that

[00:25:51] easily because

[00:25:52] of the hard

[00:25:53] competition fighting

[00:25:55] for the spots

[00:25:55] so this is also

[00:25:57] like a big

[00:25:57] topic that

[00:25:58] we'll consider

[00:25:59] how we

[00:26:00] we're going to

[00:26:01] go on about

[00:26:02] it for next

[00:26:02] year

[00:26:04] either you

[00:26:05] know opening

[00:26:06] up the

[00:26:06] competition to

[00:26:08] more riders

[00:26:08] but as I

[00:26:09] said this will

[00:26:10] lead to

[00:26:10] needing more

[00:26:12] time and

[00:26:12] might put in

[00:26:13] risk not

[00:26:14] getting a

[00:26:15] result and

[00:26:16] not finishing

[00:26:17] the competition

[00:26:17] which is

[00:26:18] which is even

[00:26:20] worse or you

[00:26:21] need to run

[00:26:22] in worse

[00:26:23] conditions to

[00:26:24] finish it

[00:26:25] you know you

[00:26:26] might need to

[00:26:26] push and

[00:26:27] and then

[00:26:28] let's say you

[00:26:29] know now

[00:26:30] you can do a

[00:26:31] competition in

[00:26:32] two three days

[00:26:32] and if you

[00:26:33] double the

[00:26:33] number you

[00:26:34] need four or

[00:26:34] five days

[00:26:35] and maybe you

[00:26:36] start off in

[00:26:37] good conditions

[00:26:38] and once you

[00:26:38] get to the

[00:26:39] you know best

[00:26:39] heat semi-final

[00:26:40] finals you

[00:26:42] you have to

[00:26:43] run in hip

[00:26:44] high waves

[00:26:45] because there's

[00:26:47] nothing on offer

[00:26:48] anymore

[00:26:48] so we

[00:26:49] keep the

[00:26:52] quality you

[00:26:52] know and

[00:26:54] and keep it

[00:26:55] elite and

[00:26:56] keep a good

[00:26:56] show so

[00:26:58] this is one

[00:26:58] monop option

[00:27:00] we could go

[00:27:01] the other one

[00:27:01] would be you

[00:27:03] know to find a

[00:27:03] different qualification

[00:27:04] system you know

[00:27:05] to run maybe

[00:27:06] trials before the

[00:27:07] events but also

[00:27:08] running trails

[00:27:10] it's not done

[00:27:11] in a day

[00:27:11] usually so

[00:27:12] that means

[00:27:13] you need to

[00:27:14] that's one

[00:27:15] problem more

[00:27:15] on the

[00:27:15] organizer side

[00:27:16] of you we

[00:27:16] need to run

[00:27:17] a trial

[00:27:17] at the spot

[00:27:19] before the

[00:27:19] world cup

[00:27:20] let's say

[00:27:20] okay you

[00:27:21] have a

[00:27:21] trial and

[00:27:21] out of the

[00:27:22] trial another

[00:27:23] four guys

[00:27:24] that do the

[00:27:24] trials can

[00:27:25] enter the

[00:27:26] world cup

[00:27:26] you keep

[00:27:26] four spots

[00:27:27] open for

[00:27:27] them

[00:27:30] will require

[00:27:31] a day

[00:27:32] or two

[00:27:32] or three

[00:27:33] if you're

[00:27:33] in the

[00:27:33] spot where

[00:27:34] the conditions

[00:27:34] are not

[00:27:35] i mean

[00:27:35] imagine

[00:27:36] cape verde

[00:27:36] cape verde

[00:27:37] and ponta

[00:27:37] preta

[00:27:39] it doesn't

[00:27:39] work all

[00:27:40] the time

[00:27:40] it only

[00:27:40] works

[00:27:41] in the

[00:27:41] swell

[00:27:41] it's big

[00:27:41] enough

[00:27:42] so you

[00:27:42] probably

[00:27:43] need a

[00:27:43] week

[00:27:44] to be able

[00:27:45] to run

[00:27:45] trials

[00:27:45] addition

[00:27:46] in addition

[00:27:47] to the

[00:27:47] world cup

[00:27:48] week

[00:27:48] already

[00:27:49] so this

[00:27:50] you know

[00:27:51] doubles

[00:27:52] quite

[00:27:52] doubles

[00:27:53] but

[00:27:54] puts the

[00:27:54] cost quite

[00:27:55] much higher

[00:27:56] of course

[00:27:56] you don't

[00:28:05] what comes

[00:28:06] with it

[00:28:06] as well

[00:28:07] is that

[00:28:08] in the

[00:28:08] end

[00:28:09] it will

[00:28:10] favor those

[00:28:11] guys who

[00:28:11] can travel

[00:28:12] to these

[00:28:12] trials

[00:28:12] more easy

[00:28:13] because not

[00:28:14] everybody

[00:28:14] will go

[00:28:15] let's say

[00:28:16] from

[00:28:16] from

[00:28:17] japan

[00:28:17] to cape

[00:28:18] verde

[00:28:18] or

[00:28:18] morocco

[00:28:20] just to

[00:28:20] do

[00:28:20] trials

[00:28:21] and hoping

[00:28:22] he gets

[00:28:22] into the

[00:28:22] world cup

[00:28:23] spending all

[00:28:23] this money

[00:28:24] just to

[00:28:24] go into

[00:28:25] the trials

[00:28:25] you will

[00:28:26] go there

[00:28:27] if you know

[00:28:27] you're in

[00:28:27] and you

[00:28:28] got your

[00:28:28] world cup

[00:28:28] spot

[00:28:29] you will

[00:28:29] spend

[00:28:30] the money

[00:28:30] and you

[00:28:30] come

[00:28:31] but just

[00:28:32] going there

[00:28:33] with having

[00:28:34] a shot

[00:28:34] in the

[00:28:34] trials

[00:28:35] where

[00:28:35] you know

[00:28:35] maybe 20

[00:28:36] people

[00:28:36] are the

[00:28:37] trials

[00:28:37] and only

[00:28:38] four of

[00:28:38] them

[00:28:38] enter

[00:28:39] so you

[00:28:40] you know

[00:28:41] you've got

[00:28:41] a

[00:28:43] 20% chance

[00:28:45] how many

[00:28:46] people would

[00:28:47] make use

[00:28:47] of that

[00:28:47] and then

[00:28:48] it would

[00:28:48] favor those

[00:28:49] people who

[00:28:49] basically live

[00:28:50] in that

[00:28:50] country

[00:28:50] or are

[00:28:51] close

[00:28:51] and can

[00:28:52] travel

[00:28:52] there

[00:28:52] over

[00:28:53] those

[00:28:53] who need

[00:28:54] to travel

[00:28:54] from the

[00:28:54] other side

[00:28:55] of the

[00:28:55] world

[00:28:57] that's why

[00:28:57] I think

[00:28:58] at the

[00:28:58] moment

[00:28:58] with the

[00:28:59] video

[00:28:59] applications

[00:29:00] we do

[00:29:00] this

[00:29:00] gives

[00:29:01] a fairly

[00:29:02] similar

[00:29:03] chance

[00:29:03] to

[00:29:04] everybody

[00:29:04] because

[00:29:05] everybody

[00:29:05] can produce

[00:29:06] videos at

[00:29:06] his home

[00:29:07] spots

[00:29:07] and send

[00:29:07] them in

[00:29:08] and show

[00:29:08] that he

[00:29:08] can ride

[00:29:09] and he

[00:29:09] has the

[00:29:09] level

[00:29:10] obviously

[00:29:11] some people

[00:29:13] you know

[00:29:14] live in

[00:29:14] Mauritius

[00:29:15] some people

[00:29:16] live in

[00:29:18] in the

[00:29:19] Mediterranean

[00:29:19] and it's

[00:29:20] not the

[00:29:20] same conditions

[00:29:21] and the

[00:29:22] action will

[00:29:22] look different

[00:29:24] and we

[00:29:24] need to

[00:29:24] compare

[00:29:25] that

[00:29:27] but in

[00:29:28] the end

[00:29:29] it gives

[00:29:30] everybody

[00:29:30] a very

[00:29:31] simple

[00:29:32] way

[00:29:34] to send

[00:29:35] in a

[00:29:35] qualification

[00:29:35] that will

[00:29:36] not cost

[00:29:37] them a

[00:29:37] lot of

[00:29:37] money

[00:29:37] and

[00:29:39] you can

[00:29:40] kind of

[00:29:41] fairly

[00:29:41] compare it

[00:29:42] are you

[00:29:43] getting all

[00:29:43] different

[00:29:43] kinds of

[00:29:44] video

[00:29:45] applications

[00:29:45] as well

[00:29:46] like the

[00:29:46] quality

[00:29:46] of the

[00:29:47] video

[00:29:47] like

[00:29:48] obviously

[00:29:48] some

[00:29:48] people

[00:29:49] are

[00:29:50] sending

[00:29:50] in what

[00:29:51] drone

[00:29:51] footage

[00:29:51] other

[00:29:52] is it

[00:29:52] are you

[00:29:53] getting

[00:29:53] some

[00:29:53] stuff

[00:29:53] where they're

[00:29:54] just

[00:29:54] filming

[00:29:54] on shore

[00:29:55] if they

[00:29:55] don't have

[00:29:56] the

[00:29:56] equipment

[00:29:56] necessary

[00:29:57] like

[00:29:57] how are

[00:29:59] you taking

[00:29:59] all that

[00:30:00] stuff

[00:30:00] into

[00:30:00] account

[00:30:00] yeah

[00:30:02] of course

[00:30:03] there's

[00:30:03] different

[00:30:04] footage

[00:30:04] ideally

[00:30:04] it's

[00:30:05] filmed

[00:30:05] from

[00:30:05] the

[00:30:05] beach

[00:30:06] what we

[00:30:06] are not

[00:30:06] allowing

[00:30:07] is

[00:30:09] selfie

[00:30:09] GoPro

[00:30:10] footage

[00:30:13] because

[00:30:13] it

[00:30:14] doesn't

[00:30:14] you know

[00:30:15] you cannot

[00:30:15] really see

[00:30:16] the writing

[00:30:16] that well

[00:30:17] if somebody

[00:30:18] rides with a

[00:30:18] camera in

[00:30:19] his hand

[00:30:21] so most of

[00:30:22] it needs to

[00:30:22] be filmed

[00:30:23] from the

[00:30:23] beach

[00:30:24] obviously

[00:30:25] we will

[00:30:26] allow

[00:30:27] this was

[00:30:27] also

[00:30:27] one of

[00:30:28] the

[00:30:28] discussions

[00:30:28] but that's

[00:30:29] really a

[00:30:29] detail

[00:30:30] we were

[00:30:31] not allowing

[00:30:31] drone in

[00:30:32] the beginning

[00:30:34] but there

[00:30:35] are obviously

[00:30:36] spots

[00:30:36] I mean

[00:30:37] Mauritius is a

[00:30:37] good example

[00:30:38] the reefs are

[00:30:39] one and a

[00:30:39] half kilometer

[00:30:39] out

[00:30:41] there is no

[00:30:42] other way to

[00:30:42] film it than

[00:30:43] with a drone

[00:30:44] so if you

[00:30:45] want to get

[00:30:45] footage you

[00:30:45] need to

[00:30:46] use a

[00:30:46] drone

[00:30:47] and

[00:30:48] so this

[00:30:49] is allowed

[00:30:50] or will

[00:30:50] be allowed

[00:30:50] but

[00:30:51] yeah

[00:30:52] it is

[00:30:53] it is

[00:30:55] you know

[00:30:55] it needs to

[00:30:56] be clearly

[00:30:57] we are looking

[00:30:58] at unedited

[00:30:58] footage

[00:30:59] because we

[00:31:00] don't want

[00:31:00] to have

[00:31:01] like

[00:31:01] major editing

[00:31:03] affecting the

[00:31:04] judging in a

[00:31:04] way so it

[00:31:04] needs to be

[00:31:05] raw footage

[00:31:07] it needs to

[00:31:07] be it's

[00:31:08] like a

[00:31:08] heat

[00:31:08] so riders

[00:31:09] can submit

[00:31:10] four videos

[00:31:11] four different

[00:31:12] waves

[00:31:12] each

[00:31:13] four different

[00:31:14] waves that

[00:31:15] can be

[00:31:15] written

[00:31:16] ideally

[00:31:16] it should

[00:31:17] be at

[00:31:17] least a

[00:31:18] two turn

[00:31:18] wave and

[00:31:19] not just

[00:31:19] showing one

[00:31:20] turn in

[00:31:20] a wave

[00:31:20] that's not

[00:31:21] counting

[00:31:21] really

[00:31:22] so it

[00:31:23] it must

[00:31:23] be two

[00:31:24] or more

[00:31:24] turns on

[00:31:25] a wave

[00:31:26] and

[00:31:27] two scores

[00:31:28] count

[00:31:28] so if

[00:31:29] somebody

[00:31:29] sends four

[00:31:30] videos

[00:31:30] then they

[00:31:31] are judged

[00:31:32] by our

[00:31:32] judging

[00:31:33] panel

[00:31:33] and like

[00:31:33] in a

[00:31:34] heat

[00:31:34] the two

[00:31:34] best

[00:31:35] waves

[00:31:35] are

[00:31:35] counting

[00:31:35] and these

[00:31:36] scores

[00:31:36] are added

[00:31:36] up to

[00:31:37] the final

[00:31:38] score of

[00:31:38] the video

[00:31:38] so it's

[00:31:39] judged

[00:31:39] like a

[00:31:40] heat

[00:31:40] in competition

[00:31:42] and then

[00:31:42] we have

[00:31:42] a ranking

[00:31:43] and then

[00:31:43] the guys

[00:31:44] with the

[00:31:44] best videos

[00:31:45] get in

[00:31:45] now if

[00:31:46] you're

[00:31:46] accepting

[00:31:46] 10

[00:31:47] you were

[00:31:47] saying

[00:31:47] there were

[00:31:48] about

[00:31:48] 30

[00:31:49] plus

[00:31:49] videos

[00:31:50] that you

[00:31:50] were

[00:31:50] receiving

[00:31:50] yeah

[00:31:51] I would

[00:31:52] say

[00:31:52] I mean

[00:31:53] there are

[00:31:54] also

[00:31:54] people that

[00:31:55] register for

[00:31:55] event without

[00:31:56] video application

[00:31:57] as I said

[00:31:59] we are

[00:32:00] not

[00:32:00] the selection

[00:32:01] is not

[00:32:01] only based

[00:32:02] on video

[00:32:02] because

[00:32:03] we know

[00:32:04] that some

[00:32:05] people might

[00:32:06] not have

[00:32:06] the same

[00:32:07] possibilities

[00:32:08] of producing

[00:32:09] videos

[00:32:09] so there

[00:32:10] is also

[00:32:10] wildcards

[00:32:11] that are

[00:32:12] up on

[00:32:13] us

[00:32:13] that we

[00:32:13] can choose

[00:32:14] where we

[00:32:14] say okay

[00:32:15] we want

[00:32:16] to bring

[00:32:16] somebody in

[00:32:17] because he

[00:32:18] is from

[00:32:18] an interesting

[00:32:19] country

[00:32:20] or

[00:32:21] because it's

[00:32:22] Kyle Eni

[00:32:23] and we

[00:32:23] want to have

[00:32:24] Kyle Eni

[00:32:24] compete

[00:32:24] you know

[00:32:25] so

[00:32:26] people that

[00:32:27] are important

[00:32:27] for the

[00:32:27] event

[00:32:28] we say okay

[00:32:28] they bring a

[00:32:29] lot of media

[00:32:29] attention

[00:32:30] or you

[00:32:31] know

[00:32:31] there are

[00:32:32] names in

[00:32:32] other sports

[00:32:33] and we

[00:32:34] want to see

[00:32:34] them compete

[00:32:35] or it's a

[00:32:36] hotshot where

[00:32:37] we have the

[00:32:37] feeling we

[00:32:38] should give

[00:32:38] him the

[00:32:39] opportunity

[00:32:39] because we

[00:32:40] think he

[00:32:40] can do

[00:32:40] really good

[00:32:41] in the

[00:32:41] future

[00:32:42] so these

[00:32:43] are not

[00:32:44] only

[00:32:44] based

[00:32:46] on video

[00:32:47] so there

[00:32:48] are a

[00:32:48] certain

[00:32:48] number of

[00:32:48] spots

[00:32:49] that are

[00:32:49] only based

[00:32:50] on video

[00:32:50] and then

[00:32:51] there is

[00:32:52] these other

[00:32:52] wildcards

[00:32:53] that

[00:32:56] for example

[00:32:57] also

[00:32:57] one of the

[00:32:58] but that was

[00:32:59] one of the

[00:32:59] organizer wildcards

[00:33:00] the presenting

[00:33:01] sponsor

[00:33:02] like Armstrong

[00:33:02] if they pay

[00:33:03] for the

[00:33:04] event

[00:33:04] they got

[00:33:04] a wildcard

[00:33:05] that they

[00:33:05] can put

[00:33:06] one of their

[00:33:06] riders in

[00:33:07] that wouldn't

[00:33:08] make it

[00:33:08] otherwise

[00:33:08] okay

[00:33:10] and you're

[00:33:11] getting a lot

[00:33:11] more ladies

[00:33:12] coming to

[00:33:13] the big

[00:33:14] show as well

[00:33:15] now for

[00:33:15] waves

[00:33:15] because it

[00:33:16] was like

[00:33:17] even talking

[00:33:17] to Bo

[00:33:17] before she

[00:33:18] was a little

[00:33:19] bit concerned

[00:33:20] that a lot

[00:33:21] of her

[00:33:21] friends are

[00:33:21] reticent

[00:33:22] but we're

[00:33:24] seeing the

[00:33:24] numbers increase

[00:33:25] yeah

[00:33:26] yeah

[00:33:26] absolutely

[00:33:27] there is

[00:33:27] actually

[00:33:28] we had

[00:33:29] quite a

[00:33:29] few

[00:33:31] girls

[00:33:32] that came

[00:33:33] for the

[00:33:33] first time

[00:33:34] and we

[00:33:34] had a

[00:33:35] good

[00:33:35] number

[00:33:35] I mean

[00:33:35] we are

[00:33:36] not full

[00:33:36] at the

[00:33:36] women's

[00:33:37] side

[00:33:37] yet

[00:33:37] but

[00:33:38] it's

[00:33:39] increasing

[00:33:40] and

[00:33:40] there's

[00:33:41] also

[00:33:41] more

[00:33:41] and more

[00:33:42] of the

[00:33:42] freestyle

[00:33:42] girls

[00:33:43] that

[00:33:43] get into

[00:33:43] waves

[00:33:44] which is

[00:33:44] good

[00:33:44] to see

[00:33:47] plus

[00:33:47] a couple

[00:33:47] of new

[00:33:48] ones

[00:33:48] that

[00:33:48] actually

[00:33:49] don't

[00:33:49] do

[00:33:49] freestyle

[00:33:49] and

[00:33:50] just

[00:33:50] do

[00:33:50] waves

[00:33:51] but I

[00:33:52] think

[00:33:52] it

[00:34:04] powerful

[00:34:04] wave

[00:34:05] Dachla

[00:34:06] is a

[00:34:06] way

[00:34:06] more

[00:34:07] easy

[00:34:07] wave

[00:34:07] I would

[00:34:07] say

[00:34:08] easy

[00:34:08] going

[00:34:08] wave

[00:34:09] sand

[00:34:09] bottom

[00:34:11] and

[00:34:12] that

[00:34:12] sounds

[00:34:12] better

[00:34:12] for me

[00:34:13] too

[00:34:15] yeah

[00:34:16] no

[00:34:16] it's

[00:34:17] an

[00:34:18] amazing

[00:34:19] place

[00:34:19] you know

[00:34:19] and even

[00:34:20] the hotel

[00:34:21] that runs

[00:34:22] the event

[00:34:22] has also

[00:34:23] told us

[00:34:23] clearly

[00:34:23] that since

[00:34:24] the

[00:34:24] Wingfoil

[00:34:24] World Cup

[00:34:25] is there

[00:34:25] they can

[00:34:26] see a

[00:34:26] clear

[00:34:27] increase

[00:34:28] in the

[00:34:29] number

[00:34:29] of

[00:34:29] Wingfoilers

[00:34:30] that come

[00:34:30] to the

[00:34:31] hotels

[00:34:31] stay at

[00:34:31] the

[00:34:31] place

[00:34:32] because

[00:34:32] they know

[00:34:32] the GWA

[00:34:33] comes

[00:34:33] there

[00:34:33] and

[00:34:34] those

[00:34:34] guys

[00:34:35] so we

[00:34:36] can

[00:34:36] really

[00:34:37] see the

[00:34:37] effect

[00:34:38] of

[00:34:38] the

[00:34:38] event

[00:34:38] being

[00:34:38] there

[00:34:39] having

[00:34:40] an

[00:34:40] impact

[00:34:41] on

[00:34:41] tourism

[00:34:42] for

[00:34:42] Wingfoilers

[00:34:44] and

[00:34:44] you know

[00:34:45] when we

[00:34:45] did the

[00:34:46] first

[00:34:46] event

[00:34:46] there

[00:34:46] we

[00:34:47] were

[00:34:47] the

[00:34:47] first

[00:34:47] people

[00:34:47] who

[00:34:48] wing

[00:34:48] foiled

[00:34:48] there

[00:34:48] in

[00:35:03] foiling

[00:35:05] foiling

[00:35:05] is

[00:35:07] is

[00:35:09] I

[00:35:09] wouldn't

[00:35:10] say

[00:35:10] the

[00:35:10] best

[00:35:10] wave

[00:35:10] in

[00:35:11] the

[00:35:11] world

[00:35:11] but

[00:35:11] it's

[00:35:11] a

[00:35:12] very

[00:35:12] good

[00:35:12] wave

[00:35:13] because

[00:35:13] there

[00:35:14] are

[00:35:14] others

[00:35:14] that

[00:35:14] are

[00:35:14] similar

[00:35:15] I

[00:35:15] think

[00:35:15] but it

[00:35:16] is a

[00:35:16] very

[00:35:16] decent

[00:35:17] spot

[00:35:18] that

[00:35:20] that

[00:35:20] allows

[00:35:21] to

[00:35:21] to

[00:35:22] really

[00:35:22] progress

[00:35:23] in

[00:35:23] foiling

[00:35:24] and

[00:35:26] yeah

[00:35:27] we

[00:35:27] are very

[00:35:28] happy

[00:35:28] with that

[00:35:29] outcome

[00:35:29] and also

[00:35:30] the

[00:35:30] organizers

[00:35:32] see

[00:35:33] that

[00:35:33] the

[00:35:34] foiling

[00:35:35] is growing

[00:35:36] in

[00:35:36] Dahla

[00:35:36] so the

[00:35:38] next thing

[00:35:38] I hope

[00:35:39] we're going

[00:35:39] to see

[00:35:39] next year

[00:35:40] coming up

[00:35:41] is that

[00:35:41] also

[00:35:41] more

[00:35:41] Moroccan

[00:35:42] athletes

[00:35:42] actually

[00:35:43] get

[00:35:44] the

[00:35:44] opportunity

[00:35:45] to train

[00:35:46] there

[00:35:46] and

[00:35:46] we had

[00:35:47] a meeting

[00:35:47] with the

[00:35:47] president

[00:35:48] of the

[00:35:48] Moroccan

[00:35:49] Sailing

[00:35:49] Federation

[00:35:49] there

[00:35:50] are

[00:35:50] some

[00:35:50] plans

[00:35:50] to

[00:35:51] install

[00:35:52] not only

[00:35:53] for

[00:35:53] wing

[00:35:53] but a

[00:35:54] water

[00:35:54] sport

[00:35:54] academy

[00:35:54] in

[00:35:55] Dahla

[00:35:56] focusing

[00:35:57] on

[00:35:57] board

[00:35:57] sports

[00:35:58] and

[00:35:58] training

[00:35:59] Moroccan

[00:35:59] athletes

[00:36:01] kiting

[00:36:01] and

[00:36:02] then

[00:36:03] giving

[00:36:04] them

[00:36:04] the

[00:36:04] opportunity

[00:36:05] having

[00:36:05] equipment

[00:36:06] for

[00:36:06] them

[00:36:06] to be

[00:36:07] able

[00:36:07] to

[00:36:08] train

[00:36:08] because

[00:36:08] the

[00:36:08] conditions

[00:36:08] are

[00:36:09] perfect

[00:36:09] as I

[00:36:09] said

[00:36:10] there

[00:36:10] are

[00:36:10] multiple

[00:36:10] spots

[00:36:11] it's

[00:36:11] not

[00:36:11] only

[00:36:11] West

[00:36:11] Point

[00:36:12] where

[00:36:12] we

[00:36:12] run

[00:36:12] the

[00:36:13] wave

[00:36:14] competition

[00:36:14] you've

[00:36:14] got

[00:36:15] Lagoon

[00:36:15] which

[00:36:15] is

[00:36:17] perfect

[00:36:17] for

[00:36:17] slalom

[00:36:18] which

[00:36:18] is

[00:36:18] good

[00:36:18] for

[00:36:18] down

[00:36:19] winding

[00:36:19] the

[00:36:20] ocean

[00:36:20] couple

[00:36:21] of

[00:36:21] the

[00:36:21] Maui

[00:36:22] boys

[00:36:22] they

[00:36:22] brought

[00:36:22] their

[00:36:24] down

[00:36:24] wind

[00:36:25] sub

[00:36:25] boards

[00:36:26] as

[00:36:26] well

[00:36:26] and

[00:36:27] they

[00:36:27] did

[00:36:28] a few

[00:36:28] down

[00:36:28] wind

[00:36:28] runs

[00:36:28] 20

[00:36:29] 25k

[00:36:30] down

[00:36:31] the

[00:36:31] coast

[00:36:31] ending

[00:36:31] up

[00:36:32] in

[00:36:32] West

[00:36:32] Point

[00:36:34] because

[00:36:35] you

[00:36:35] have

[00:36:36] wind

[00:36:37] all

[00:36:37] the

[00:36:38] way

[00:36:46] down

[00:36:47] and

[00:36:48] this

[00:36:49] place

[00:36:49] is

[00:36:49] getting

[00:36:49] more

[00:36:50] and

[00:36:50] more

[00:36:50] important

[00:36:51] were

[00:36:51] you

[00:36:51] able

[00:36:52] to

[00:36:52] do

[00:36:52] any

[00:36:52] kind

[00:36:53] of

[00:36:53] cultural

[00:36:53] like

[00:36:54] I

[00:36:54] saw

[00:36:54] a couple

[00:36:54] of

[00:36:55] videos

[00:36:55] there

[00:36:55] that

[00:36:55] you

[00:36:55] guys

[00:36:56] had

[00:36:56] on

[00:36:56] of

[00:36:56] some

[00:36:57] camel

[00:36:57] riding

[00:36:58] with

[00:36:58] cash

[00:36:58] and

[00:36:58] some

[00:36:58] of

[00:36:59] the

[00:36:59] other

[00:36:59] guys

[00:36:59] and

[00:36:59] girls

[00:37:00] and

[00:37:00] so

[00:37:01] what

[00:37:02] kind

[00:37:02] of

[00:37:02] interactions

[00:37:02] were

[00:37:03] you

[00:37:03] able

[00:37:03] to

[00:37:04] provide

[00:37:04] the

[00:37:04] athletes

[00:37:05] and

[00:37:05] whatnot

[00:37:05] this

[00:37:05] time

[00:37:06] yeah

[00:37:07] we

[00:37:07] always

[00:37:08] try

[00:37:08] at

[00:37:08] each

[00:37:09] event

[00:37:09] this

[00:37:09] is

[00:37:09] a

[00:37:09] big

[00:37:10] part

[00:37:10] to

[00:37:11] have

[00:37:13] yeah

[00:37:14] let's

[00:37:14] say

[00:37:15] to

[00:37:15] link

[00:37:16] up

[00:37:16] with

[00:37:16] the

[00:37:16] local

[00:37:17] culture

[00:37:17] and

[00:37:17] Morocco

[00:37:18] is

[00:37:18] an

[00:37:18] interesting

[00:37:19] place

[00:37:19] for

[00:37:19] a lot

[00:37:19] of

[00:37:20] people

[00:37:20] something

[00:37:20] new

[00:37:21] they

[00:37:40] know

[00:37:41] you

[00:37:41] got

[00:37:41] camels

[00:37:42] you

[00:37:42] can

[00:37:42] do

[00:37:42] camel

[00:37:43] riding

[00:37:43] you

[00:37:43] can

[00:37:44] it's

[00:37:45] known

[00:37:45] for

[00:37:45] oysters

[00:37:46] so

[00:37:46] there's

[00:37:46] big

[00:37:46] oyster

[00:37:47] farms

[00:37:47] there

[00:37:47] like

[00:37:48] a couple

[00:37:49] of

[00:37:49] restaurants

[00:37:49] where

[00:37:49] you

[00:37:49] basically

[00:37:50] eat

[00:37:50] oysters

[00:37:51] fresh

[00:37:51] out

[00:37:51] of

[00:37:51] the

[00:37:52] sea

[00:37:54] we've

[00:37:54] been

[00:37:55] going

[00:37:55] you know

[00:37:56] it's an

[00:37:56] Arabic

[00:37:56] town

[00:37:59] we've

[00:37:59] been

[00:38:00] taking

[00:38:00] some