Episode #61 - Nadja Bianchet

[00:00:00] Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. This week we have Nadja Bianchet joining us. She is a very talented wing foiler that is sponsored by Nash.

[00:00:10] She joins us to talk about how she found wind, Laventana, her work with the ladies that struck kiteboarding and hood river, including their kite and wing foil camps and much more. So I hope you enjoy this episode.

[00:00:24] If you have caught Friday's episode, it was the sixth of the wing life show with Gwen, Damien and myself. On this episode we talked all about wing handling basics so if you are new to the sport,

[00:00:36] this is a great episode for you and make sure to check it out. Now I want to take this opportunity to thank our team for making this show a reality.

[00:00:44] We have Frank on social media, we have Matthias on Guess Outreach and we have Stefan on video and audio editing. A big thank you as a lot of work goes into every episode so thanks a lot guys for making this show a possibility.

[00:00:59] Next I'd like to say a quick thank you to Nora Foils, they are our first official sponsor. They have a great team, they're just as passionate as we are so thanks Maurice, Matt and Mike over there at North Superstoke to be working with you guys.

[00:01:15] Lastly, Winter is coming and if you haven't decided where to go yet, I would suggest hopping over to the wing life podcast website so it's winglifepodcast.com and clicking on trips in the main navigation menu to see what we have in store for 2025.

[00:01:30] We have two amazing trips that I think you would really love, so make sure to go check out winlifepodcast.com. Now I hope you enjoy the show. Welcome to the winglifepodcast where we talk about wing foiling and the lifestyles of those who enjoy this great sport.

[00:01:55] Hey thanks for coming on it's nice to meet you. Yeah thanks so much for having me. So I heard you just had a pretty long drive from Baja back up to Cali how did that drive go?

[00:02:07] Yeah I mean it's been the eighth time I've been doing it always did by myself and I actually enjoy it. It is a lot of driving and I drive. I do it in two days, I drive 10 days the first

[00:02:21] day and then like 12 days 12 hours sorry the second day and yeah I enjoyed it at listen to music and audiobooks and I love being in my own space and having my own company but I'm pretty

[00:02:37] fried after signing a day or two to recover. Yeah I can't imagine how long is that from LA area? I don't know in miles or kilometers I'm always confused by that.

[00:02:53] Or time it takes me about 22 to 24 hours total drive time it depends if I hit any traffic and send you a go. Okay that's big enough that's big enough do you camp along the way or do

[00:03:09] hotels or motels or? No I always stop at the halfway point which is grow and they grow and I say in a little hotel there which I know to people and I always stay there so I feel super safe

[00:03:24] works. Yeah that's cool but your origin story starts in the mountains I read. Yeah yeah can you walk us through though? Yeah yeah totally I was actually born in Austria in a lot country. I didn't really kite until I was 25 years old. I was exposed to

[00:03:51] kiting when I was 19 very briefly. I took a lesson but it was a pretty terrible experience to be honest because I learned from or I took my first lesson from the sky that named himself Molly Boe

[00:04:07] Kiteserv and he was teaching in Molly Boe which you probably know the conditions are terrible. It's way beat or is seaweed there's rocks it's not a good place to practice flying a kite and

[00:04:20] he was teaching on rare America as well so yeah didn't teach me anything about safety is didn't know what a quick release was like I remember one time I was an oxygenard that was my very first

[00:04:41] time trying to kite by myself and he salt me this 15 meter ram air kite which is huge and oxygenart was pretty windy and I launched it by myself but the wind it was

[00:04:55] like 30 mile an hour when super stormy and I could barely hold myself down. I don't even know what I was doing and no clue and then the sky named Raul actually came by and he's like what are you still

[00:05:12] and I'm like I have no clue to sky salt me this and he told me I should come here to practice and he said today it was a good day so I'm here and I'm doing it I really want to do it and he's like no

[00:05:24] no we're going to get rid of that kite and he brought me to Belmontor as an introduced me to inflatable kites and that was the whole start off my mind. Wow no trainer kite right into a rammer

[00:05:42] yeah I did everything wrong so now I'm really I think that experience made me a really good coach though because I know what's important and yeah what to look out for and also warn people to

[00:05:59] take lessons from a reliable service and not from the cheap guy that teaches out of a car. That's jumping back to Levantana let that's one thing right because I've talked to a few

[00:06:10] school owners here that's changes so there's a lot a lot of more people running their own schools out of the back of their trucks or their independent people and like I think and don't

[00:06:22] couple other owners are looking at starting more of an association to help with that down here I'm brand new but that's just kind of what I heard is there's been a massive change from that and

[00:06:33] and I don't know I think I would prefer people to obviously learn from a professional school with all the proper insurances and all these different things because hospitals are kind of far

[00:06:46] from here so and things can happen but okay so you got introduced to it what brought you over to to this states to begin with. Yeah when I was 19 I did an exchange program as an repair

[00:07:05] so the plan was to just come to the US and experience the dream so to say for a year and I was basically working and living for this family I was staying with them they provided

[00:07:23] room and board and an exchange I would just drive their kids around and make them breakfast to have them to school and it's gonna kind of be an any but the kids were a little older so it was

[00:07:34] more like a personal assistant. Yeah yeah so and that brought me here and during that year I made a lot of connections and very briefly got introduced to kite boarding at the time I was just really

[00:07:55] expensive for me I wouldn't I wasn't making any money so yeah I was kind of kind of hard to get into. I mean how did you meet? Yes sorry go ahead. Yeah and that's also the reason why it took me

[00:08:12] until I was 25 years old until I actually bought like a full insoluble kite quiver and had the resources to really get into this. Yeah that makes sense yeah it's not none of the wind sports are too accessible financially these days especially foriling it's crazy how expensive that

[00:08:33] stuff is and yeah so how did you meet like sent seeing all the ladies and hood? Um how did that happen? I went to hood I think it was 27 or 28 when I first came to hood

[00:08:52] river and I worked for a kid. And I was always interested in the park riding so I kind of uh in a very shy manner approached that group of people and I was like hey I want to help you

[00:09:12] guys most likely is then um yeah that's how I met them and then started hitting rails and yeah just hung out at the marina where they launched. Yeah it was definitely not not easy to find

[00:09:32] and in because that group of people were definitely very cheap themselves very tight group. Okay okay but as your like parks that that's pretty challenging riding like how did you go towards that versus other aspects of kiteing for example? Um I think the moment like this is kind

[00:09:59] of my my personality or super power as soon I have interest in one thing I really really get into it and spend a lot of time so um I the moment I decided I'm gonna be kiteboarding

[00:10:17] and I really want to do it. I spent every day learning about it reading about it watching videos being underwater flying the kite every second no matter if there's wind or no wind I would go

[00:10:29] to the beach set up my kite and I think spending every second there is wind on the water being the first one on the water being the last one off the water or drifting in and that's true sometimes

[00:10:46] I think that's how I got there and so I progressed really really quickly and also my mindset is always to to try and push myself against the edges of my comfort zone so with every session I have a goal

[00:11:03] to progress and that's where where my whole excitement for the sport comes in I like things where I'm challenged and where I can progress. Wow welcome grads on that coming from Austria did you ever meet Arnold over there? No I get the question a lot

[00:11:23] I just didn't leave to with Arnold. Okay no well I did not. That's cool so you spent some time in hood and did you decide to head down the competition train? Yeah definitely I started out

[00:11:42] with competing in the local competitions which was Hood Jam at the time and then 2019 I went to K-Patteras and I did make it into the triple S. It was very unexpected for me but

[00:12:04] I won the open and then went right through and I mean I made okay I was last in that actual competition but I won the open. It's still good. And then yeah and then that was unfortunately the last

[00:12:24] year the final year of the triple S after that they can solve the competition. Very sad. How did you find wing-foiling? How that beautiful weird sport fell into your plate? Oh my god it's so silly and I really don't know it was more like

[00:12:46] I saw it in Hood River and it popped up everywhere and I'm like this is so silly looking it's like little butterflies on the water and then out of everyone's like it's not easy it's so hard I'm

[00:12:59] like give me that I'm gonna try it I'm gonna show you so silly it's so stupid and then it wasn't at the end it was really fun it was really challenging it was something where with every session

[00:13:13] with every time you went on the water you progressed so fast and that's really where I get hooked when when I'm on the water and I learn something new that excitement then like chemical

[00:13:27] release and you're going like whoa I learned this and I did it I accomplished yeah and Hood's like one of the best places for winging it's crazy there. Yeah absolutely absolutely crazy is that

[00:13:41] you're more so home spot than for now? Yeah I guess for the summer really I spent most of my time in Hood River or in Mexico love in Tana and then in between I'm in all over to place

[00:13:57] very nomadic that's pretty cool how do you like that lifestyle compared to let's see a more for somebody maybe they're working a regular job like what would you let them or tell them about this lifestyle that might entice them um well there's always positives and negatives with

[00:14:18] everything um I love being on the go and moving around the one thing I would say that is hard as sometimes making more solid connections with people it's hard to be somewhere for three months make

[00:14:38] friends or think you're making really good friends and then having to leave again um also when it comes to trying to maintain um relationship it makes it very difficult to find someone that's that's on the same you know yeah what else it's I mean I really enjoy not

[00:15:03] owning a lot of things I used to own a bunch of furniture and just so much stuff everyone owned so much stuff and I owned just the things that I really need and every time I buy something new

[00:15:18] I like oh of something and it's so it makes me feel really light and really good about that that's cool kind of very a very sustainable lifestyle but I think especially in the U.S. everyone

[00:15:37] constantly it won't stop and on stuff and it has a bunch of stuff just in storage and laying around and and it's stuff that raised you down anyway so constantly having to pick up did everything in your car and move for one more

[00:15:55] place to another I think it keeps your load. yeah the more minimalistic more like connected aspect of life like that is um it's something I think there was research done a long time ago they were saying that people were a lot happier with that kind of lifestyle

[00:16:15] versus one where there was the accumulation of just stuff and that that's when society started to go down it's slightly different path but when we had tribes and things people moving around people are a lot happier because they're more connected. yeah exactly but that's one aspect

[00:16:32] of because it's my first time down in Mexico and there's a lot less commercialism things life here is a lot more simple and I find that that's something that I really like it took an adaptation

[00:16:45] to it it took an adaptation to the heat, took a adaptation to how simple life is but it helps you slow down and then connect yourself more to what matters I find versus Canada

[00:16:56] in the US it there are billboards everywhere every single day I want to buy something when there's nothing wrong with that it's just like commercialism gone wild but that's one aspect for anybody looking to disconnect a little bit is some of these places around

[00:17:09] the world and they're scattered everywhere. um they're beautiful for that is that why do you spend so much time in Mexico? yeah for the same reason um every time I arrive or even just crossing the border

[00:17:29] I feel like I'm coming home so I don't know where that sense is coming from but I really love the energy you're divided there I can't really describe it or make sense of it but I

[00:17:41] feel like home I love the empty roads and the endless empty landscapes there's just a lot of nothingness and a lot of green and nature and yeah it's it's not as regulated not as many rules

[00:18:02] that's true that's true yeah but there's a there's still a lot to do um like the biking here is apparently really really good good hiking like we want to hike past the hot springs

[00:18:15] the like two three weeks ago or something and um like beautiful kind of stuff through the mountains you got really good restaurants good social scene people are super friendly so well that's cool

[00:18:28] yeah totally it's a really great community down there and then the I one of my favorite things is just running through the cactus trails it's so beautiful and I just yeah I love South Beach

[00:18:44] yeah so much beauty and the sunsets are incredible never seen sunset that beautiful anywhere in the world well I guess folks if you haven't been pretty good sales pitch for 11 times I haven't ton or

[00:18:57] it yeah I like I like my beach to myself like I walk out I'm pretty close to the ocean right now so you walk out and there's like two people in the water there's it has been a no win but it's

[00:19:14] amazing for swimming and kind of just relaxing and more of the beach life right now and it's heated up a little bit but I'm just amazed how few people access I remember I've been to Malibu once and there's

[00:19:25] a couple beaches along like they're always fairly busy with people doing things but I'm surprised that here it's a bit more quiet so maybe people do other things I guess yeah I think a lot of people

[00:19:37] had out early in the morning on boats it's now it's the fishing and diving season starts and a lot of people have left the season yeah it's skeleton crew yeah but that's all right that's all right

[00:19:50] when you head out to hood then I'll be there starting June 2nd or 3rd I have a convention I'm going to Texas right before so and then I can't coming up for strat kite boat yeah let's talk about that a

[00:20:08] little bit which is our yeah so strat kiteboarding is actually originally a scency graves and Colleen Keralds company they started that because they found there was a something missing for intermediate writers in particular women the whole focus of the strat cans is for women to empower

[00:20:37] other women in this sport I think for women in particular it's very intimidating the sport of citing or wing-foyling is challenging and it's still male dominated so having female coaches that really encourage you and just having that all women environment is so so conducive for growth

[00:21:02] and at bandsmen in this sport for women hmm that's nice to hear because we want to be able to get more and more there's a couple we just want more and more people to come in but it's nice

[00:21:18] to have a safe environment for women to come and train to grow and then to spread that out to more of their friends yeah just having women show up at the beach with confidence even for me

[00:21:32] sometimes in hood river a divinside I set up my kite and everything and that there is more than not I have a man come up to me say like oh are you sure you're going to take

[00:21:45] this 14 meter isn't it gonna be too windy for you I'm like no it's not I'm fine thank you so much and if you're not having that confidence and you're like that creates a lot of insecurity

[00:21:59] for women and then you're the way you show up and the way you're on the water and the way you enjoy the sport you're like uh not sure I'm not good enough I'm like I don't know and then

[00:22:11] in the tourist women from the sport if you're not quite at the level where you can say like no and know what I'm doing I got it like it's easy to instill that insecurity and no one and I know

[00:22:27] man or anyone doesn't they only need well but they don't understand what some guys do so some guys are just sharks and they should not be allowed to do anything but like yeah for the

[00:22:42] most part you can say that there's a lot of meaning well individuals out there but but still I completely agree and understand where you're coming from and I think that's extremely needed and because yeah it's just I don't know do you think that stuff's getting worse now

[00:23:03] do you think it's getting a little bit easier for ladies and sports or in general or is it still pretty I mean looking at the market we can see that there is a lot more women now accessing

[00:23:17] the sports especially in wing-foiling I think we're close to 50-50 especially when it comes to lessons a lot more women are taking lessons which is really nice to see so we love it also

[00:23:35] it's a little bit different coaching a woman compared to coaching a man a man always shows up when oh I got this just give me the basics I'm fine and women are like no please step I

[00:23:48] give me like all I need like I want to be knowing everything before I even step on the board or hold away so it's a very different approach so we love doing really love doing the

[00:24:01] cans and coaching women and yeah it's super rewarding so how many are you then at a strut right now is it the three of you or so Colleen is taking a break currently and

[00:24:18] Sancy's really the main driver of the whole operation I'm slowly taking over more and more aspects and doing a lot of cans on my own we have Abby Ben Nimberg that helps with a lot of

[00:24:35] cans as a co coach we did Brazil we did a really successful Brazil camp together last year and now she'll be supporting also the Cape Teteras camp she's super great super super fun to have her very

[00:24:54] skill very knowledgeable really good coach which is super important as well but we're for the future we're looking to bring in more and more female coaches okay I got a friend of mine she lives in Thunder Bay

[00:25:10] and she really really good citer and yeah it's I'll have to mention it mentioned it to a few friends yeah that's cool okay that's cool yeah so then how what you're saying is these kite camp

[00:25:24] are fairly comprehensive then you break down everything lodging is as all that included as well and how does that work yeah everything everything included the transportation is included so people have to buy their own flights but usually you break this lunch and dinner is included accommodation everything

[00:25:43] is organized we want to have a good time so and also enjoy the luxury in every spot so we usually pick really nice and fancy places yeah we we have a big focus on being healthy so food is usually very

[00:26:05] health oriented and we also make adjustments if anyone has any food intolerances so everything is pretty much taking care of and then a usual day looks like we wake up in the morning

[00:26:22] have breakfast together we go over okay what do we want to do today what is every individual working on we break down little things we have a session in the morning go over different

[00:26:38] tricks together or even over some safety reviewing a lot on the beach before we head out making an exit plan just in case things go wrong and then we write with the girls we encourage them and

[00:26:53] motivate them to try what they were set out to do that morning then we have a lunch break what we go over what went well what went wrong what didn't go so good what can we do better

[00:27:05] or do we just want to sit out take a break you know listen to what your body says and what you need and then we go for an afternoon session and do it all over again and then we have dinner and

[00:27:17] we're gonna be fast out that makes sense sometimes we have a yoga to do it or we organize massages so it's really sounds like a nice time now boyfriends and husbands at home or can

[00:27:32] do they come and stay in the hotel or is that what's the what's broken well we are really focusing on keeping our coaching container contain so we can have sometimes people ask us oh

[00:27:46] can I stay at my place but just come for the lesson I'm like and we always say no because we want to keep the group contained and keep that integrity so husbands needs to somewhere else

[00:28:00] somewhere else that's cool so it's like a weak intensive yeah so it's a weak intensive I guess is our how long are the camps sorry yeah they're like they're okay sorry so that's cool

[00:28:16] that's good for us all to know then and what are your destinations for this here um so we have besides the camps we do some clinics so we have some clinics coming up in her river to wing

[00:28:28] for a beginner wing for a clinic and just a wing for a clinic where everyone is welcome and then to kite clinics which is only two days and then we have the two Brazil camps

[00:28:48] that will be October and November one kite camp and one wangong. Oh beautiful what do you like the most about Brazil I've heard I think that's one of my next spots I'd like to go to

[00:28:58] oh my god there it's when you kite there a wing there or you want to try to progress it's like cheating just the wind is so consistent it's warm it's consistent the I don't even know it's perfect

[00:29:15] if you think of the most perfect conditions you've ever written in it's Brazil every day really how a lot and there's a bunch of different wave spots flat water spots like there's a whole bunch

[00:29:26] of different locations you can pick from eh anything anything anything you like don't find it there light winds strong wind flat water rates and you feel fairly safe there yeah yeah I've never

[00:29:44] had any problems all right so Brazil's some top of your list what other spots around the world if you really loved and have gotten the opportunity to go to um oh my god there are so many beautiful

[00:29:55] spots uh depends on what you're looking for I really also I spent six months in the grain came in which is yeah very very Caribbean beautiful spot great when beautiful warm water I loved it there

[00:30:15] it was a lot of flat water writing too um because it's surrounded by a big reef so inside to reef you had a lot of flat water but you could find big ways in the channels as well so lots lots of

[00:30:31] variety when was more on the lighter side what other spots I really loved my way for waning and yeah I would river Laventana where else would you ever head back back out home way

[00:30:52] like back out to Europe and stuff I I actually never kite it or ring Europe which is all right a lot of spots right I should probably I know many spots but it's I think because I grew up in Europe

[00:31:11] it's not as interesting to me I've seen a lot of spots there and yeah I feel I guess as an immigrant to the US there is so many spots in the US that I want to see and explore and are just

[00:31:30] more interesting to me just because I grew up that's fair so I think for yeah for anyone in the US Europe is a lot more interesting that's fair yeah in Malibu area in the whole area in our

[00:31:44] coast is it's insanely beautiful I think it was when I drove through Malibu it was the first time that I felt like because there's what we drove by a couple for our dealerships it wasn't sane

[00:31:55] with that place felt like just the energy of that place and it's not very often you see like 100 brand new for our research sitting parked outside it's just crazy the money around there is

[00:32:08] crazy but yeah the beaches are unbelievable yeah and a lot of opportunity here to connect with great that's very true that's very true how do you connect then the citing world to the professional

[00:32:22] world so that you can fund all these adventures and stay a little bit more nomadic if you don't mind yeah totally so where do I start well I do a lot of the camps and clinics with Sancie which is

[00:32:41] a big part of the work that I'm doing and then I'm doing a lot of private coaching one on one coaching which I've been really really busy my focus is I have a lot of women that come to take lessons

[00:32:59] or to learn new skills that constantly reach out and return and just want to progress so it's not just beginners it's a lot of hey I want to learn how to kite loop or hey I want to learn some

[00:33:14] new wing foil tricks or maneuvers so it's a lot of advanced lessons okay what's your favorite wing foil trick that you've been teaching the most it's not so much when it comes to

[00:33:29] tricks it's mainly what I've taught previously which isn't very often is just a basic basic jump but people really want to learn how to tack and jive so hard and just switch it to me yeah those

[00:33:46] are the most common okay how long did it take you a heel side tack yeah I was such a bugger for no I yeah really um I don't know two days probably no I don't know probably picked up wing following day number three you working on your 360's

[00:34:12] now it took a little longer but I remember my very first time trying I went on a down winger in Laventana and I just borrowed whatever gear I could so Robbie lent me a 40 liter

[00:34:30] board and I had a small foil and some crappy wing and the whole down winger was just like cursing and crying by the end I was like this cannot be this hard but of course it was my first time

[00:34:46] and I was 40 liter wide and then a small wing like there was no chance no one knew right no one knew what was the right gear no one had gear it was hard to get your hands on anything sorry

[00:35:00] the strongest right true wow yeah 40 would be tough so you're who are you writing for now so still with Nash and then mistake is a big sponsor of mine which they've been supporting me

[00:35:20] for a long time and same with Nash like I have never changed my brand I've always gotten that's awesome yeah that's awesome and I looked a gear it's amazing the variety and the

[00:35:36] quality I don't want to write anything else that's fun though when you find a brand that you not only connect with like personally but then you also like their their gear and they're great to

[00:35:50] to work with that's awesome yeah give a bit of a shout out to North because they were our first official podcast sponsors so the guys over there were absolutely amazing we also did our first gear

[00:36:06] release episode with them so if you haven't caught that one make sure to catch that episode but great team obviously they're all kind of mystic and them are all working together so it's

[00:36:17] yeah they're a great group of guys and in ladies as well I love Matt he is so nice and so they make a good gear so anyways that's a plug there you go North Mystic Nash actually

[00:36:31] Matt a guy here I think he was either a distributor for Nash but he let me try the brand new four and a half meter I think of this year wing okay and because it was like 13 or I don't know maybe

[00:36:43] 14 knots one day and because I'm a lighter smaller guys like there's no way you're getting out there today's sun there's no way but that wing was so powerful that whatever I popped up and did

[00:36:53] a bit of riding and it rode well yeah it was it's the first time riding Nash actually so you tried to ADX to hard handles I believe that's what it was yes yeah yeah it was pretty good it was light

[00:37:08] light wing it pumped well it was a fairly stable wing like some wings are more responsive like side-to-side I mean they just oscillate more this one kind of stayed there which is cool

[00:37:20] and it did what I needed it to do so it passed kind of that entry test so can't complain awesome yeah yeah so we got some camps coming up what fun stuff are you doing this week now

[00:37:33] that you're back home for a bit or just kind of in between sorry um I'm just yeah I'm just prepping for the upcoming week for a keep-hadred I'm really excited to meet all the girls and have a

[00:37:46] fun productive week with them and then when I come back I'm heading to straight-to-text is actually for a biohacking convention which is one of the other things I'm doing a lot it's I'm super into

[00:38:04] health and performance I went to school for a integrative health and nutrition so I'm doing a lot of or starting to focus a lot on one-on-one coaching in that area as well oh that's also just helping

[00:38:19] people finding ways to optimal health and performance and coach them through a program there will be coming more to that awesome that's a good time given our obesity epidemic in Canada US around the world and

[00:38:43] one thing I'm craving is just like a fast American food but on the other hand it's nice so I have to eat different things because it's not as readily available down here but what brought

[00:38:57] you into that kind of area of health and more holistic health yeah that's a good question I actually my entire teenage years and young adult years I was really sick and I had to fight

[00:39:11] every single day to just get out of bed in a sense I was struggling or still sometimes struggling with autoimmune issues I had how she motives which took a long time to properly diagnose so when I was

[00:39:26] young I was just trying to function properly but just getting out of bed was hard focusing was hard just reading a sentence was hard I had a lot of brain fog I had a lot of uncontrolled weight gain and that had all to do with my thyroid function

[00:39:50] and like a hormonal disruption and yeah I spent my teenage years running from one doctor to another and trying to figure out what's wrong and it was really really hard to get a proper

[00:40:10] to get any proper information about it people would or doctors would just give me medication and said oh here just take this and you'll be fine but that wasn't really the solution and it

[00:40:24] took me just a lot of studying and researching and reading and reaching out to holistic practitioners to really address the issue because it's really all the basics that solved a problem which is a lot of making sure you're eating healthy you're exercising

[00:40:49] you're managing your stress and you sleep well and yeah also just trying to supplement and see where is the root cause instead of just throwing medication at it and then hoping for the best

[00:41:07] okay at the end that's what really helped me and I was a really long journey and I went all the studying that I did and with the studying that I'm still doing I hope I can can save people some time and give them some hope in that area.

[00:41:27] So that's another perk they would get for come into your camps as well then. Yeah and also what sense you were talking about doing during camps specifically with focus on enhancing and optimizing health and performance.

[00:41:46] Hopefully I'll just more to come in the future. I'm sure they're sure they will be. What's your favorite move wing foiling that you've been practicing or that even practice this winter here?

[00:41:59] Yeah so I told myself that this winter I'm going to learn how to backflip with on the wing foiling. If you know me backflips is one of the most uncomfortable things that my body just does

[00:42:16] not want to back. That's one of my friends like no we're not doing I can frontflip. Even kiteboarding or in the riding park my body does not want to backflip off a kicker or anything

[00:42:31] or even just backflip into the water. My body is like no we're not doing it. So it was a really big mental mental block that I had to overcome and

[00:42:45] the end of the season kind of approach. I'm like I said I'm going to do it so I just got to do it and I headed on my mind. I've visualized it a lot and then eventually I'm like okay we have

[00:42:57] a couple more wind days we go to do backflips and it's actually not that bad. I destroyed a couple of wings took me three wings to really learn thank you Nash. Yeah thank you so much

[00:43:16] well the support and also I have a friend in bed repaired all my wings and he he made it very affordable for me. Yeah the kite doctor in love in Tana he did great and I really appreciate it his help in that

[00:43:39] yeah he did a really good job fixing all my wings so there is still functioning they're awesome but he had definitely that learning that trick is a wing killer and a few tips to learn that

[00:43:54] trick would be go as fast as you can with as much power as you can more than you think because you need to hide and to speed tuck your knees and just commit looking back.

[00:44:13] Yeah I heard the commitment part was the hardest. But so how I guess how did you how were the white potes when you were trying them as you were learning? Yeah they're not that bad you

[00:44:32] I mean you fall head for us your upside down most likely or you start out with just throwing your foil up and you land on your back. Okay all right and it's not it's really not that bad it's

[00:44:48] physically from a physical perspective it's not a difficult trick at all it's not very technical like compared to learning free styling kite boarding it's so much more precise and technical and in wing-filing it's a lot of just committing and going with speed and a lot of power

[00:45:10] and hacking more and so I would say yeah but now lost my trainer thought. I haven't tried anything yet I'm just still riding strapless but next year I want to jump down too much smaller board here because the ocean is so buoyant and floaty so I'd like

[00:45:32] to get something and because a lot of the days I'm riding like a three meter wing and doing from Latuna doing like a five or six K-down winder just to the left of like why it's resort

[00:45:44] playing there for about an hour or two then I come back home and I climb back up but yeah yes Brittany from access there here she got me into that and now once I did one with her I

[00:45:58] felt comfortable to do a whole bunch because of my first time doing them but it's a good workout coming back up but whatever hey burns at the energy because you need to do something so

[00:46:09] mazool. Mazool get myself tired and pass out the energy. Yeah that's a good day on the water if you do that oh yeah it's well there's so many different spots like if you go a little further

[00:46:21] at where it gets dark blue you got bigger rollers there's nice wave like there's some nice little each breaks along the shore and I found a couple reefs as well because I got one

[00:46:31] wind surfing day when I was pushing close to 30 and got some back side stuff there have you ever tried there's a wavespot I can't remember the name of it but it's at the beach and further left

[00:46:44] quite a bit left but apparently it's a pretty crazy shelf limestone reef there yes have you tried riding there yeah you can ride there I rode there before but you definitely have to save more on the outside

[00:47:00] you can go too close in it's it gets really shallow really quick so it's great it's a great wave spot if on a big day and also for kite surfing rather than wing-foiling because it

[00:47:17] gets so shallow um I would say there is another spot even a little further it's called bait per casea which doesn't which is more sandy but the waves are still good so that's just a tad further

[00:47:34] and it's a good spot okay but I definitely had some some situations when I was caught on the inside and yeah not the best not not so fine not so fine all right favorite food down here in

[00:47:53] love and time favorite spot to go oh my god I mean I love what do I love? since I love salads and eating healthy I really enjoy going to nomada or cacetara

[00:48:10] um does our probably my go-to spots I make a lot of food myself my friends are really into fishing and so to bring a lot of fresh fish so we enjoy making polky balls or sushi me and

[00:48:28] that's really yeah I've had my favorite stuff down here was yeah yeah okay that's cool is there anything else you wanted to touch on today um what else I feel pretty good I don't know whatever your

[00:48:45] interest in or create is about I'm happy chance you're finding backflips were harder than front flips I'm not I haven't done front flips on a wing it's just for my body and my mind flipping

[00:49:00] forward is easy flipping forward on a trampoline is easy flipping forward on a kite or of a kicker or anything or yeah inverted front rolls are easy for me but it's just the mental block of

[00:49:16] the committing to going backwards it's hard for me personally okay but I haven't I haven't done front flips on a wing yet maybe next month though yeah something to work towards too and you got

[00:49:35] 360's and all that stuff dialed there yeah 360's I love doing toe side 360's which are super fun and yeah working on on backflips and then yeah slowly slowly getting there okay sometime yeah

[00:49:52] I don't I don't what's your go-to now set up we'll finish there yeah I'm writing the 42 liter board I have the full carbon mask which is 85 centimeters I my favorite front wings is the

[00:50:11] 840 and the 640 front wing I aspect and then a 220 stabilizer okay and then I write the 80x wings which have hard handle super stiff wing love it and yeah I'm super excited for the

[00:50:33] new ones to come out because they'll be with a little material oh interesting a lot of companies are going to Lula what are your thoughts on that price point wise repair wise why don't have a lot

[00:50:48] of experience with it I did try I did get to try the new Lula kites from the Ashda and Vision last year and performance wise they're really next level really okay so I think just the material being

[00:51:07] super stiff but lied and durable they perform so much better every time I was doing a kite loop it went into a double kite loop that's how quick and efficient they are I was writing a 7 though okay

[00:51:22] all right still then yeah it's just so fast and efficient and yeah I don't know okay so I haven't tried the Lula wings yet but really looking forward to what they got and what they can do

[00:51:40] all right looking forward to those two maybe what do you know when they're coming out um I don't know when they're officially on the market um I'm I'm getting mine as soon I'm getting to

[00:51:54] hit river so if you're in a river let me know you can try mine yeah you can try my setup 40 that's well like I was writing at event site last year um in September so obviously but we

[00:52:09] still had like shoulder high rollers and whatnot and um if you just stay away from the boats other than that such have you done like into paddle down winding and stuff like that like stand a paddle yeah I tried I did

[00:52:26] put a little bit of effort into paddling at the end of last season um one of the hardest things I've tried to learn definitely it's just really technical and exhausting it takes a little bit

[00:52:45] I got up once one time it did like a couple downwinders got up one time I was so excited I fell over right away so I'm hoping to do a little bit more a decision it took me a moment to figure out what size of

[00:53:02] board was really fitting because I tried a 90 liter which was too small and it was hard to balance and then I tried a 120 liter which was way too big and I couldn't get up the water and then I tried

[00:53:16] a 100 or 105 liter and that was the perfect size for my weight and everything to get going properly yeah I want to try that this fall when I get out there um because yeah 11 times should be

[00:53:32] and they'd be insane for that just so good here for that stuff nice well hey yeah thanks for taking the time and I will probably see you in Hood River yeah totally thanks so much you're welcome thanks everybody we'll see you next time